Ahsoka - SPOILERS

[John R Davis]

I've not seen any of the animated stuff.
I quite enjoyed it and managed to follow it without being too confused with all the Nouns ( I did look at internet post watch to clarify a few things).
It looked great visually.
Few plot holes but more importantly after watching Andor I became very pro empire, and I am now even moreso. The Republics in their various incarnations are run by idiots.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

The Republics in their various incarnations are run by idiots.

That's just authenticity. EVERYTHING is run by idiots. The Republic. The Empire. Real Life...

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Basically, what this Captain does is make a bunch of snap assumptions, all of which are obviously terrible and clearly there to just facilitate lazy writing. And he's wrong because of course he is.

What decision do you believe he could have made that would have led to a different outcome?

 

[Clint_L]

What decision do you believe he could have made that would have led to a different outcome?

Continue with his mission. Not bring a suspected enemy ship of unknown capabilities onboard. Alert other Republic vessels to deal with it. After he made the dumb decision to bring them onboard, send his security chief rather than go in person - if he has to to talk to them he can do so once they are in the brig. Send an overwhelming guard force, with cannons trained on the ship. Not let the two Jedi advance right up to him and his six guards.

How would you handle it, with all his resources at your command?

In any case, the outcome was going to be the same, because the story had to happen. The prisoner was going to be rescued. But you can do that without making the captain and his forces look like incompetent boobs. Which is way better for the story, because 1) the captain and crew being good at their jobs makes sense, and 2) the bad guys rescuing the prisoner despite facing a competent captain and crew makes them that much scarier.

I already described how I would write the scene: the bad guys use their skill and talent to stealth their way onto the ship and get to the brig. There, they are in the middle of using stolen codes to release the prisoner when a sharp-witted security guard realizes what is up and trips the alarm. Now the bad guys have to fight their way out, and they do, despite the best efforts of a skillful captain and crew. That would make sense and make the villains seem much more powerful and resourceful.

 

[RangerWickett]

I would have had the seductively-bearded dark jedi seduce the captain, and then after 7 to 10 minutes of hardcore sex, the captain would agree to let them take his prisoner. That would make sense and make the villains seem much more seductive and sexy.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Continue with his mission. Not bring a suspected enemy ship of unknown capabilities onboard.

The Shuttle is continuing it's approach. Now what?

How would you handle it, with all his resources at your command?

Surrender unconditionally and hand over the prisoner. There is a chance they will spare the ship and crew.

Sometimes "the resources at your command" are simply nowhere near enough.

 

[Mort]

Surrender unconditionally and hand over the prisoner. There is a chance they will spare the ship and crew.

Sometimes "the resources at your command" are simply nowhere near enough.

Surrender at what point?

Before the duo board the ship? The captain has no reason to think they're anything other than imposters. Surrendering at this point would be ridiculous and likely earn the guy a court martial and at best a boot from the military, if not a possible prison sentence.

After they board the ship? The captain sees two figures in robes saying they are Jedi. A near preposterous claim. Plus, if they ARE Jedi there is nothing to fear. If they're not, he assumes they're just imposters in robes easily subdued by guards with blasters.

The captain makes the, not unreasonable, request to see some identification - fully expecting the pair to bungle it. And then things hit the fan. By the time the force comes out it's way too late for surrender, the bad guys are already killing everybody.

 

[Hussar]

Continue with his mission. Not bring a suspected enemy ship of unknown capabilities onboard. Alert other Republic vessels to deal with it. After he made the dumb decision to bring them onboard, send his security chief rather than go in person - if he has to to talk to them he can do so once they are in the brig. Send an overwhelming guard force, with cannons trained on the ship. Not let the two Jedi advance right up to him and his six guards.

How would you handle it, with all his resources at your command?

In any case, the outcome was going to be the same, because the story had to happen. The prisoner was going to be rescued. But you can do that without making the captain and his forces look like incompetent boobs. Which is way better for the story, because 1) the captain and crew being good at their jobs makes sense, and 2) the bad guys rescuing the prisoner despite facing a competent captain and crew makes them that much scarier.

I already described how I would write the scene: the bad guys use their skill and talent to stealth their way onto the ship and get to the brig. There, they are in the middle of using stolen codes to release the prisoner when a sharp-witted security guard realizes what is up and trips the alarm. Now the bad guys have to fight their way out, and they do, despite the best efforts of a skillful captain and crew. That would make sense and make the villains seem much more powerful and resourceful.

How exactly do you “stealth” onto a spaceship travelling through space?

The actually did stealth onto the ship. Using an old code to peak interest and look incompetent.

By this point on time the Jedi have been dead for about thirty years or so. There’s no reason to think these would actually be Jedi.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Surrender at what point?

Before the duo board the ship? The captain has no reason to think they're anything other than imposters. Surrendering at this point would be ridiculous and likely earn the guy a court martial and at best a boot from the military, if not a possible prison sentence.

After they board the ship? The captain sees two figures in robes saying they are Jedi. A near preposterous claim. Plus, if they ARE Jedi there is nothing to fear. If they're not, he assumes they're just imposters in robes easily subdued by guards with blasters.

The captain makes the, not unreasonable, request to see some identification - fully expecting the pair to bungle it. And then things hit the fan. By the time the force comes out it's way too late for surrender, the bad guys are already killing everybody.

As soon as they appear on the scanner, using the meta-knowledge that @Clint_L is assuming the captain has.

The fact is, following the rules of the Star Wars universe, against two jedi the crew of the ship never had a chance, no matter what decisions they make. They are simply massively outgunned.

 

[Maxperson]

How exactly do you “stealth” onto a spaceship travelling through space?

The actually did stealth onto the ship. Using an old code to peak interest and look incompetent.

By this point on time the Jedi have been dead for about thirty years or so. There’s no reason to think these would actually be Jedi.

At this point in time isn't Luke around and training new Jedi? He's pretty famous and a jedi training academy would well known, especially on a New Republic ship. The claim isn't as far fetched as you think.