AI/LLMs AI art bans are going to ruin small 3rd party creators

[liteberer]

That’s not my understanding. No future date needed as far as I can tell.

What concrete question is being asked?

It seems there is no argument there. He's arguing a contrafactual with no basis in reality. He's making up a non-existing AI that he thinks that by some process of iterative prompt building, he'll be able to arrive at something that he defines as creative. He's ignoring the fact that, by the act of the AI having to go to the... well, so to speak, of stolen data, it's never going to be creative.

And creating more and more complicated prompts is not going to change that. Fruit of the tainted tree and all that...

 

[aramis erak]

The architect does not own or control the houses built to the design.
The architect’s drawings/designs are protected by copyright though.
The architect will have a legitimate claim if a builder uses the drawings without compensating the architect.

(Usual disclaimers apply…)

In france, even images of the building are subject to the architect's creators' rights. Which is why it's technically unlawful to photograph certain buildings.

[snipped aggro statement]

Which reminds me: Chris Cox, in an interview last week, noted that the AI D&D tools are dead, "the creatives object to them", but also mentions that the artists at hasbro are expected to use AI because it increases their "creativity and productivity"... and that AI characters are "... helping us know if a new design is authentic."

 

[Brendan Byrd]

In france, even images of the building are subject to the architect's creators' rights. Which is why it's technically unlawful to photograph certain buildings.

[snipped aggro statement]

Interesting. I’ll go to sleep less ignorant than when I woke.

So does that cover all buildings, or those built after a certain date…?
Trade dress? Copyright?
I mean, if you take photographs of certain types of buildings in any country, you’re going to gain some negative attention.

 

[Epic Meepo]

What I am talking about is the same as computer programming. I am directing the AI tool through many, many, MANY lines of language to produce an image that is my vision. A computer programmer directs the computer tool through, many, many, MANY lines of language to produce an image that is his vision. The only real difference is that AI is a tool that can understand English, so I can use that language instead of a computer language.

A computer programmer's end goal isn't to "direct the computer tool through... lines of language." A computer programmer's end goal is to create a program (the "lines of language" you reference). Any "directing the computer" a programmer does while creating their program is incidental, and is often done just to check their work (via debugging, etc.). A skilled enough programmer can create a simple program using only a white board, with no computer involved in the process at all.

The programmer might later choose to run the program they created ("direct the computer tool" to run their "lines of language"), but that's independent of the creative process of programming. Additionally, if running their program directs a computer to manipulate a data set provided by other people to produce some output the programmer wanted, the programmer didn't create that output. The program and the people who provided the data set created that output.

 

[Brendan Byrd]

A skilled enough programmer can create a simple program using only a white board, with no computer involved in the process at all.

Unskilled ones too!

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