AI/LLMs AI art bans are going to ruin small 3rd party creators

[Bill Zebub]

AI art will never be good because it will never be art. It will have no soul or creative expression. It will only ever be a 'will this do?' copy and paste.

Huh.

That raises interesting questions about definitions.

I frequently find nature, both here on earth and in the sky, to be not just beautiful but thought-provoking. And, yet, I can also believe (do believe) that they were created without "soul" or "creative expression".


So maybe they are beautiful and inspiring but not "art"? I could accept that, or accept that we define "art" in such a way that this is true.

In which case I would also be ok with the statement: "AI is capable of generating beautiful and inspiring things, but it's still not art."

EDIT: Another example would be the Mandelbrot set. A friend of mine in college....this is in the late 80s...did a senior project of Mandelbrot images but the art department told him it "wasn't art".

 

[soviet]

Huh.

That raises interesting questions about definitions.

I frequently find nature, both here on earth and in the sky, to be not just beautiful but thought-provoking. And, yet, I can also believe (do believe) that they were created without "soul" or "creative expression".


So maybe they are beautiful and inspiring but not "art"? I could accept that, or accept that we define "art" in such a way that this is true.

In which case I would also be ok with the statement: "AI is capable of generating beautiful and inspiring things, but it's still not art."

EDIT: Another example would be the Mandelbrot set. A friend of mine in college....this is in the late 80s...did a senior project of Mandelbrot images but the art department told him it "wasn't art".

Well, much of nature is alive, so I'm not sure about soul. I also don't believe in a divine creator. But the process that creates birds, rivers, flowers, and sunsets is incredibly complex and multi-layered. It can be beautiful and soulful without having to have had a designer.

But 'Lol copypaste an average of hundreds of pictures, but with 10% more boobs' is not capable of creating art, beauty, or genuine inspiration, only perhaps a semblance of it for people who have no sophistication or soul themselves.

 

[Bill Zebub]

Well, much of nature is alive, so I'm not sure about soul. I also don't believe in a divine creator. But the process that creates birds, rivers, flowers, and sunsets is incredibly complex and multi-layered. It can be beautiful and soulful without having to have had a designer.

But 'Lol copypaste an average of hundreds of pictures, but with 10% more boobs' is not capable of creating art, beauty, or genuine inspiration, only perhaps a semblance of it for people who have no sophistication or soul themselves.

Well, I hope you are able to take solace in your superiority when the world goes in the direction you seem to be hoping it won't.

 

[Morrus]

Well, I hope you are able to take solace in your superiority when the world goes in the direction you seem to be hoping it won't.

This is getting a bit spiky, folks. Dial is back, please!