Alter Self - fight with 4 weapons?

[Zerovoid]

I was paging through Races of Faerun, and came across the Fey'Ri, which are a new kind of demon/Sun Elf hybrid. I guess in case drow aren't angsty enough for you, you can use these guys. This race has unlimited permanent Alter Self, like a doppleganger. My inner munchkin can't help thinking about this:

Since a Fey'Ri can use Alter Self to add up to 2 limbs, as stated in the spell, they can add 2 arms? Can they fight with weapons in these arms? Since these arms are on all the time, could they take Multidexterity and Multiattack?

 

[dvvega]

In theory yes - to all your questions.

Having the extra limbs at moment of training (levelling up) allows you to gain the feats ... IMC it would fail unless Alter Self lasted for 24 hours, however by the standard rules, it works.

 

[Firzair]

Hi,
I think everyone could gain Multidexterity who sometimes had more than 2 arms in his life, but one could only use it while unter the effects of Alter Self or something similar (Polymorph other or Self). So the Human Wizard should be able to learn the feat by level 6 after he trained a little in using his extra arms brought by Alter Self. It won't be needed that the spell lasts 24 hours I think.

Greetings
Firzair

 

[dvvega]

That is why I said IMC ... I require characters to train.

 

[Zhure]

HOLY SMOKES!

What's the ECL on them? Maybe somebody could do a brief run-down on the Fey-Ri for me? I don't have Races of Faerun yet.

Greg

 

[Golandrinel]

Yes a run down would be cool. They must have some disadvantages. Perhaps they are not clkassed as Fey but as Abhorations.

 

[Yeoman]

Yes a run down would be cool. They must have some disadvantages. Perhaps they are not clkassed as Fey but as Abhorations.

Actually if I remember correctly from seeing them before, they were classed as Outsiders. They were in the Monsters of Faerun, book under Planetouched: Fey'Ri. However I don't have Races of Faerun, so I couldn't tell you if they have changed or not. They used to have a list of powers they could select from I think.

 

[Golandrinel]

Actually if I remember correctly from seeing them before, they were classed as Outsiders. They were in the Monsters of Faerun, book under Planetouched: Fey'Ri. However I don't have Races of Faerun, so I couldn't tell you if they have changed or not. They used to have a list of powers they could select from I think.

Cheers Yeoman, some spells / items should be fairly effective against them then....

 

[Stalker0]

The spell doesn't give you the attack forms of the form you choose, so I would say multiweapon fighting would count as an attack form, and so you wouldn't get it.

Which is kind of interesting how you can get wings and fly, get gills and breathe, and get new arms but can't fight with them?

 

[Zerovoid]

They are ECL+2, +3 if you select certain special abilities. That sentence about not getting attack forms in the alter self spell is what had me thinking this might not be allowed.

In some ways, alter self is only a little better than change self, so maybe the arms are too weak to fight effectively, but can only hold things... It depends if using the arms is an "attack form" of the creature that you've turned into.