D&D 5E Amazon US book sales rank.

[Neonchameleon]

Just checked the UK Amazon sales ranks. The 2024 D&D PHB is claiming to be the #1 best seller in roleplaying and wargames despite having a rank of 626 in books. By contrast Daggerheart only has a books rank ... at 399 (and isn't even officially out until July on Amazon UK)

 

[Neonchameleon]

There's no real mechanic per se, but it is part of the GM principles

It's also part of the campaign frames and the setup there (which I don't have in PDF). The Quickstart adventure also has notes including

and

 

[SteveC]

I was just looking at Amazon Canada after someone mentioned it. Daggerheart is #10 in books, while the Player's Handbook 2024 is #313. So, at least for now, Daggerheart is winning the Canadian pocket book.

 

[AlViking]

I was just looking at Amazon Canada after someone mentioned it. Daggerheart is #10 in books, while the Player's Handbook 2024 is #313. So, at least for now, Daggerheart is winning the Canadian pocket book.

It's new and they had exposure that most new games couldn't even dream of, so current numbers don't mean much. Check the numbers again in 6 months or a year and maybe it matters depending on whether Daggerheart is widely available in the same channels as D&D outside of Amazon.

 

[mamba]

Daggerheart is #10 in books, while the Player's Handbook 2024 is #313. So, at least for now, Daggerheart is winning the Canadian pocket book.

That is like saying the latest indie movie sold more tickets this week than Avatar did, when Avatar was released 6 months ago

 

[SteveC]

It's new and they had exposure that most new games couldn't even dream of, so current numbers don't mean much. Check the numbers again in 6 months or a year and maybe it matters depending on whether Daggerheart is widely available in the same channels as D&D outside of Amazon.

Oh I'm sure they don't mean anything. Except that they made it to the top 10 of all books. Now I'm sure this will likely drop off shortly, but I was wondering how long it would take someone to say, "This doesn't mean anything!" I plan on looking at this every couple of weeks. I used to do it every now and then with the last edition and was astounded to see month after month, year after year, that the 5.0 PHB was ranked so highly. It told a story of how the game was doing, despite all the people hating on it.

I expect this to be a short-lived adventure for Daggerheart. It will be interesting to see how it works out. I do find it interesting to see that the 5.5PHB is a couple of hundred spots lower than where I usually saw the 5.0 PHB at, but this is Canada. Maybe it was never that high there, who knows? And we can no longer see sales in the US.

 

[SteveC]

That is like saying the latest indie movie sold more tickets this week than Avatar did, when Avatar was released 6 months ago

Except that I followed the 5.0 PHB for years, and it was typically at about 100 to 180 for the entire time. There was an ongoing discussion about how many books the PHB was selling going back years, and I always found that, at least according to Amazon, it was doing well.

 

[darjr]

Sorry, these numbers may not mean much long term but they certainly are a triumph for the Daggerheart game and the publisher.

These are numbers unheard of by all but a couple rpg publishers and maybe only D&D, at least as far as non ks sales go.

There are ALOT of books getting into people’s hands.

And I think anecdotally a lot of games being stated and/or tried.

 

[Neonchameleon]

Just to put this into perspective I don't believe PF2e ever broke the top 150 of books on Amazon. Daggerheart is already, from basically a standing start (Candela Obscura went nowhere), challenging for second place.

I expect this to be a short-lived adventure for Daggerheart. It will be interesting to see how it works out. I do find it interesting to see that the 5.5PHB is a couple of hundred spots lower than where I usually saw the 5.0 PHB at, but this is Canada. Maybe it was never that high there, who knows? And we can no longer see sales in the US.

The big question is whether they can turn their game into a game line. And they are certainly trying, with playtest material in "The Void" and having picked up Crawford and Perkins.

I hope they succeed; I would easily rather either play or especially run Daggerheart to either 5e/5.24 or PF2e

 

[mamba]

Except that I followed the 5.0 PHB for years, and it was typically at about 100 to 180 for the entire time. There was an ongoing discussion about how many books the PHB was selling going back years, and I always found that, at least according to Amazon, it was doing well.

didn't they change the category which made tracking harder? Also, there probably are a lot more direct sales now, and definitely more digital sales (50% or more by now), than there were during most of 5e's timeframe