Ambiguously Gendered Revenge of "What is the Hivemind?"

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Jdvn1 said:
The rare good ones tend to be maybe average schools in a world-wide sense. Also, I'm referring to high schools. It's the same story with middle schools too, but the elementary schools are among the best in the world.

Ya, but it is not fair to compaire many to world wide. Take Germanyt for instance. Over their the people that goto their version of colleges are the very brightest they have to offer. So, the schools that prepare kids for that are supre good but unlike the US in Germany it is not assumed that every one needs college. So many of the kids go to apprenticeships for lack of a better word. THey are schools also but trade schools. It is very different from the US.
 

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Jdvn1 said:
The rare good ones tend to be maybe average schools in a world-wide sense. Also, I'm referring to high schools. It's the same story with middle schools too, but the elementary schools are among the best in the world.
We did pretty well for ourselves at my high school, methinks. Talking to MIT students from other countries and our own, our school offered more AP classes than any of them who went to public schools, sometimes by an order of magnitude, and at least people I know from the EU are definitely not learning anything as well as they taught it there...
 

Rystil Arden said:
Ah, but that isn't what you said. And you can see how the slash wouldn't be seen as a division sign by someone who knew that Weight actually is equivalent to Gravity :)
What I said was
Jdvn1 said:
Is going back to the basics so hard? Mass is weight/gravity. It's how much stuff there is.
I was referring to the equation, but I can see how that might not be clear.
 

I went to school in England for a summer and besides the English history stuff that I did not know as well as they required it was not hard.
 

Jdvn1 said:
I don't really know the specifics, but I'd think the Union wouldn't like that either. I don't know how it works in Maryland, though, since that sort of thing varies by state.
Oh the Union didn't like it that much, but the administration is masterful in at least the art of manipulation. Plus the Union didn't really like the teachers from our school because we did better than the other schools in our county, so they were always irrationally jealous.
 

Crothian said:
Ya, but it is not fair to compaire many to world wide. Take Germanyt for instance. Over their the people that goto their version of colleges are the very brightest they have to offer. So, the schools that prepare kids for that are supre good but unlike the US in Germany it is not assumed that every one needs college. So many of the kids go to apprenticeships for lack of a better word. THey are schools also but trade schools. It is very different from the US.
On the contrary, I think it's perfectly fair. Our high schools are supposed to prepare kids for future jobs. College isn't supposed to be necessary, so they're forced to pick up the slack of the middle and high schools. Our teaching methods are dated about 80 years, back when people weren't assumed to need college. The US isn't keeping up.
 

Rystil Arden said:
We did pretty well for ourselves at my high school, methinks. Talking to MIT students from other countries and our own, our school offered more AP classes than any of them who went to public schools, sometimes by an order of magnitude, and at least people I know from the EU are definitely not learning anything as well as they taught it there...
Statistically, the US is dead last in student performance among industrialized nations. Just because your school offers more AP classes doesn't mean they're better classes than the public schools of other nations.

I'm referring to high school student performance, though. Colleges in the US are also among the best in the world, so I don't doubt that the MIT students are learning very well.
 

Jdvn1 said:
What I said was I was referring to the equation, but I can see how that might not be clear.
Just making the point that the explanation of mass is anything but trivial, since you seemed to think that it was trivial.
 

Jdvn1 said:
Statistically, the US is dead last in student performance among industrialized nations. Just because your school offers more AP classes doesn't mean they're better classes than the public schools of other nations.

I'm referring to high school student performance, though. Colleges in the US are also among the best in the world, so I don't doubt that the MIT students are learning very well.
If my school taught better than the schools of the foreign students, though, then what does that say? Certainly my school's AP test score averages were above those across the nation; all 5s except one 4 in our psychology class? That clearly isn't what everyone is getting...
 

Jdvn1 said:
On the contrary, I think it's perfectly fair. Our high schools are supposed to prepare kids for future jobs. College isn't supposed to be necessary, so they're forced to pick up the slack of the middle and high schools. Our teaching methods are dated about 80 years, back when people weren't assumed to need college. The US isn't keeping up.

College might not supposed to be needed, but it is. I've been in the Personal section of business and it does not matter what the diploma says, they are want people who have them.

Some schools are keeping up. It took to my Junior year of College before I covered something that was not covered in my high school Math class and we didn't have an AP class, just an advanced one. Its the inner city schools though that are really failing.
 

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