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drothgery said:
As soon as there are any BCS teams even close to the Pac 10 other than Colorado, that'll fly. Geography matters, people...

With two games one would be at home and one would be away; that way everyone travels.
 

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Crothian said:
With two games one would be at home and one would be away; that way everyone travels.

There's a reason why half of the Pac 10 doesn't play even one game east of the Mississippi (and no one plays more than one); it's just too far to travel -- even in-conference travel is enough of a hassle that Pac 10 schools pair up on their in-conference travel arrangements to save money. Big 10 teams can take short trips to play teams in the Big 12, SEC, or Big East (and even the ACC schools aren't that far away); a Pac 10 school playing an out of conference game against a BCS team (other than Colorado) is a major endeavour.
 

well, more BCS teams need to play each other so its just something they would have to deal with. Of course this is just guess work, not like I have any pull in the world of College sports yet. :D.
 

drothgery said:
Any proposal that requires the Big 10 and Pac 10 to change their membership is dead on arrival. And there's not really a logical way for the Pac 10 to expand; logistics demand a pair of teams close to each other, but BYU & Utah probably won't work because BYU doesn't play games on Sunday, and the only other thing that's even remotely possible--Colorado and Colorado State-- requires raiding from the Big 12.

I know I risk mocking, but Boise and Fresno would fit nicely in the Pac-10. Boise hasn't had much success against them, and I think Fresno has done well. And both schools, with the recruiting power of being a Pac-10 (or Pac-12) team would do quite well. The main issue would be stadium size. Boise seats around 33k, not sure about Fresno. But I know Boise could expand.

Anyway, that's my dream. Boise and Fresno are definitely a cut above the rest of the WAC, so a home there would be nice. But it will never happen.
 

Dimwhit said:
I know I risk mocking, but Boise and Fresno would fit nicely in the Pac-10. Boise hasn't had much success against them, and I think Fresno has done well. And both schools, with the recruiting power of being a Pac-10 (or Pac-12) team would do quite well. The main issue would be stadium size. Boise seats around 33k, not sure about Fresno. But I know Boise could expand.

The other issue is that the Pac 10 does paired travel (one of the big reasons why they're in much better shape financially than the other western conferences, which are similarly spread out) and both schools lack an obvious travel partner. San Jose State is the closest non-Pac 10 I-A team to Fresno, and they're both much closer to Cal and Stanford than to Fresno and one of the worst teams in I-A. Idaho is the obvious partner for Boise, but they're also not very good, and closer to Washington State than to Boise. Utah might work (and if there's anyone the Pac 10 would like to add, it's Utah), but that's pushing things distance-wise (as per above, BYU is problematic for religious reasons and Utah State isn't good enough).
 

Crothian said:
well, more BCS teams need to play each other so its just something they would have to deal with. Of course this is just guess work, not like I have any pull in the world of College sports yet. :D.

Well, if you upgrade the MWC to a BCS conference, it wouldn't be so impractical for the Pac 10 to play other BCS teams, but then there's seven BCS conferences (and after the Big East does its post-split expansion, there may not be enough left of CUSA and the MAC to make a viable eight).
 

drothgery said:
Any proposal that requires the Big 10 and Pac 10 to change their membership is dead on arrival. And there's not really a logical way for the Pac 10 to expand; logistics demand a pair of teams close to each other, but BYU & Utah probably won't work because BYU doesn't play games on Sunday, and the only other thing that's even remotely possible--Colorado and Colorado State-- requires raiding from the Big 12.

Why does BYU not playing on Sunday matter? College games are only on Sunday if they are Bowl games and BYU can refuse Bowl games to find one that fits what their needs.
 

drothgery said:
Well, if you upgrade the MWC to a BCS conference, it wouldn't be so impractical for the Pac 10 to play other BCS teams, but then there's seven BCS conferences (and after the Big East does its post-split expansion, there may not be enough left of CUSA and the MAC to make a viable eight).

having 7 automitc bids is fine, automatic bids get paired up with the non automatic bids all the time.
 

Crothian said:
Why does BYU not playing on Sunday matter? College games are only on Sunday if they are Bowl games and BYU can refuse Bowl games to find one that fits what their needs.

BYU would be in the Pac 10 for all sports, not just football.
 


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