John Crichton
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I could have sworn that Quinn died because of a drug overdose...BrooklynKnight said:
Angel Finale
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LightPhoenix
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Yeah, he died of a drug overdose.
Great ending.
Wesley had to die, because Wes is a tragic hero, and that's what tragic heroes do best. Even knowing it was coming though it was awesome. Now, Lorne killing Lindsey, that was something. Oof. Why couldn't we have had Season 5 Connor in previous seasons?
Also, Gunn/Richards rocks. I'm sad to see him go, and I hope he gets more work. And it looks like he borrowed a few toys from Wes at the end there... 
This ending could have gone either way for it to be a cliffhanger. I agree it works in the context of not being one. This episode worked as an ending the same exact way Farscape's last episode worked as an ending. On the other hand, I'm assuming Joss didn't want his show cancelled... in which case this was a cliffhanger.
Great ending.
Wesley had to die, because Wes is a tragic hero, and that's what tragic heroes do best. Even knowing it was coming though it was awesome. Now, Lorne killing Lindsey, that was something. Oof. Why couldn't we have had Season 5 Connor in previous seasons?
Also, Gunn/Richards rocks. I'm sad to see him go, and I hope he gets more work. And it looks like he borrowed a few toys from Wes at the end there... This ending could have gone either way for it to be a cliffhanger. I agree it works in the context of not being one. This episode worked as an ending the same exact way Farscape's last episode worked as an ending. On the other hand, I'm assuming Joss didn't want his show cancelled... in which case this was a cliffhanger.
Mog Elffoe
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Man, I didn't want it to end. I love how it ended with the team going out (?) fighting. Almost a fantasy 'Butch Cassiday & The Sundance Kid' sort of ending.
Great moments:
Lorne as hitman.
Lindsey's dying words: "I don't get killed by a flunky... Angel kills me..."
The way Spike spent his last day.
Illyria 'lying' to Wes.
The hordes of Hell (giants and dragons and everything) converging on the last of the heros.
Favorite line:
"Me personally? I kinda want to slay the dragon..."
Minor Nitpick:
I really would've liked to have seen Wes go out with two guns in his hands.
Curse the WB! Curse them!
Great moments:
Lorne as hitman.
Lindsey's dying words: "I don't get killed by a flunky... Angel kills me..."
The way Spike spent his last day.
Illyria 'lying' to Wes.
The hordes of Hell (giants and dragons and everything) converging on the last of the heros.
Favorite line:
"Me personally? I kinda want to slay the dragon..."
Minor Nitpick:
I really would've liked to have seen Wes go out with two guns in his hands.
Curse the WB! Curse them!
Red Spire Press
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Truly beautiful finale. The wife and I are quite sad that the one show we really loved is gone, but we couldn't have asked for a better ending.
Wes was probably my favorite character of the series. The amount of character development he went through was phenomenal while remaining thoroughly believable. I was very sad to see him go, but at the same time I am glad that Joss chose a truly profound death rather than a cop out (Illyria would have been an easy card to toss, seeing as she was basically just a dead Fred).
I loved how every member of the team had their mark, and the manner in which their mini battles were portrayed. Very empowering for each character and a real honor to them as individuals.
Lindsey's betrayal was a shock. I have liked his character ever since he was introduced as the confused prettyboy lawyer at W&H, and I admit to a certain exhilaration when he started talking about being a member of the team. His assassination by Lorne (at Angel's instruction) was very very strong.
Angel giving up the Shanshu. This was a shocker. The series had seemed to be leading up to Angel (or possible Spike as of Season 5) regaining his humanity. It was a driving factor that went unfilfilled. Again, a very powerful maneuver.
The actual ending... the remains of Team Angel, battered and ready to go up against a demon horde. And then of course Angels' great line about the dragon, as mentioned by everyone else. One of those bitterly beautiful moments as you realize it's a perfect ending even as you are kept from seeing what will ever happen.
I loved this show. This was a great ending. Can't say the last time I felt emotional about the end of a show... 
Cheers.
Wes was probably my favorite character of the series. The amount of character development he went through was phenomenal while remaining thoroughly believable. I was very sad to see him go, but at the same time I am glad that Joss chose a truly profound death rather than a cop out (Illyria would have been an easy card to toss, seeing as she was basically just a dead Fred).
I loved how every member of the team had their mark, and the manner in which their mini battles were portrayed. Very empowering for each character and a real honor to them as individuals.
Lindsey's betrayal was a shock. I have liked his character ever since he was introduced as the confused prettyboy lawyer at W&H, and I admit to a certain exhilaration when he started talking about being a member of the team. His assassination by Lorne (at Angel's instruction) was very very strong.
Angel giving up the Shanshu. This was a shocker. The series had seemed to be leading up to Angel (or possible Spike as of Season 5) regaining his humanity. It was a driving factor that went unfilfilled. Again, a very powerful maneuver.
The actual ending... the remains of Team Angel, battered and ready to go up against a demon horde. And then of course Angels' great line about the dragon, as mentioned by everyone else. One of those bitterly beautiful moments as you realize it's a perfect ending even as you are kept from seeing what will ever happen.
I loved this show. This was a great ending. Can't say the last time I felt emotional about the end of a show...
Cheers.
myrdden
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What else can be said that already hasn't been said?
That is how you end a series (on short notice).
My only nitpick is that I wish it had been a two hour (wishful thinking...hour and a half maybe) episode to more fully wrap things up.
My wife is mourning the loss of Wes, but as another stated he was a tragic hero. Although a more blazing ending for him would have been more desirable.
What else can I say?
Oh yeah...curse the WB!
That is how you end a series (on short notice).
My only nitpick is that I wish it had been a two hour (wishful thinking...hour and a half maybe) episode to more fully wrap things up.
My wife is mourning the loss of Wes, but as another stated he was a tragic hero. Although a more blazing ending for him would have been more desirable.
What else can I say?
Oh yeah...curse the WB!
Henry
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The Link is pleased.
My favorite line? Strangely, not the dragon line, but: "Would you like for me to lie to you now?" It brought a smile to my face in a really gloomy scene.
Illyria turns human - Wesley, the one "least fit to teach her about humanity," was ultimately the ONLY one who could. Gunn likely dies and joins Wes and Fred in the hereafter - or at least Wes; the dynamic duo keeps going!
I honestly believe Spike would live through it all - he's the strongest after Angel, he was the least hurt it seemed, and when Angel signed away his claim to Xanshu, that meant (and the look on his face, he KNEW it) that Spike is the one who is supposed to "live until he dies." Beautiful moment, and beautiful ending.
Lorne, hired gun - awesome. I see why he left after that - he's a gentle guy, loves music and laughter, he was not supposed to go down fighting. But he was loyal to Angel to the end, I have to respect that. Lindsey's pained look and statement at the end; he EXPECTED to die, but was hurt that Angel did not do it himself. Very well done.
Finally, the scenes with Connor are very touching, and put a good cap on that storyline. He understood, given the context of a "normal" childhood, what Angel did for him, and was grateful. That's what Angel fought for and possibly died for.
I honestly HAVE no complaints: Hats off to Joss, Jeffrey Bell and crew to a wonderful episode.
My favorite line? Strangely, not the dragon line, but: "Would you like for me to lie to you now?" It brought a smile to my face in a really gloomy scene.
Illyria turns human - Wesley, the one "least fit to teach her about humanity," was ultimately the ONLY one who could. Gunn likely dies and joins Wes and Fred in the hereafter - or at least Wes; the dynamic duo keeps going!
I honestly believe Spike would live through it all - he's the strongest after Angel, he was the least hurt it seemed, and when Angel signed away his claim to Xanshu, that meant (and the look on his face, he KNEW it) that Spike is the one who is supposed to "live until he dies." Beautiful moment, and beautiful ending.
Lorne, hired gun - awesome. I see why he left after that - he's a gentle guy, loves music and laughter, he was not supposed to go down fighting. But he was loyal to Angel to the end, I have to respect that. Lindsey's pained look and statement at the end; he EXPECTED to die, but was hurt that Angel did not do it himself. Very well done.
Finally, the scenes with Connor are very touching, and put a good cap on that storyline. He understood, given the context of a "normal" childhood, what Angel did for him, and was grateful. That's what Angel fought for and possibly died for.
I honestly HAVE no complaints: Hats off to Joss, Jeffrey Bell and crew to a wonderful episode.
Vocenoctum
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hmm, I guess I'm the only one that would have prefered them meeting in the alley and just ending it there, without the cheesy horde charging at them...
Ah well.
Excellent episode, I wish it had been longer because the scene's seemed too short. Illyria shifting as she popped the guy was great. It would have been nice to see Wes running & gunning, but the time constraints...
Harmony was fun, Spike was great, Lorne was perfect. I only wish Angel had killed Eve instead of letting her go.
I also didn't care for Baldwin's character, shades of the Buffy end Uber Guy, whatsisname.
Ah well, great episode, good way to drop it.
Ah well.
Excellent episode, I wish it had been longer because the scene's seemed too short. Illyria shifting as she popped the guy was great. It would have been nice to see Wes running & gunning, but the time constraints...
Harmony was fun, Spike was great, Lorne was perfect. I only wish Angel had killed Eve instead of letting her go.
I also didn't care for Baldwin's character, shades of the Buffy end Uber Guy, whatsisname.
Ah well, great episode, good way to drop it.
John Crichton
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Read my first post...Mog Elffoe said:
Great minds and all dat...
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