Animal Friendship question

[Wippit Guud]

If a druid casts Animal Friendship on something in animal form, and it fakes affection, does the druid realize the spell didn't work?

 

[Crothian]

Bluff verse Sense Motive I'd say

 

[Dingleberry]

I'm bookless, but IIRC, a caster knows whether or not his spell worked. I think it's in the saving throws section of the magic chapter of the PHB, but I'm sure someone will provide a more accurate cite.

 

[AuraSeer]

According to this page, "if a creature's saving throw succeeds against a targeted spell, the character senses that the spell has failed."

Animal Friendship is targeted, so the caster automatically knows whether it saves or not.

 

[Wippit Guud]

Hmmm.... any ideas about how a druid can fake out a rival druid, and become her 'companion' to spy on her?

It's for a 1-player game I'm running (which is hard in of itself)

 

[Nifft]

Hmmm.... any ideas about how a druid can fake out a rival druid, and become her 'companion' to spy on her?

There's a spell in Magic of Faerun (or Masters of the Wild -- but I think MoFaerun) called Share Husk, which lets a Druid see & hear via the senses of a specific animal.

-- Nifft

 

[Mahali]

An animal has an Int of 2 and isn't smart enough to bluff by pretending to be a friend.

Also pointed out was the fact that you know when a creature failed/made a saving throw against your spell.

 

[Kaji]

According to this page, "if a creature's saving throw succeeds against a targeted spell, the character senses that the spell has failed."

Animal Friendship is targeted, so the caster automatically knows whether it saves or not.

I'm not sure how this would work. If you're in animal form and the Druid casts Animal Friendship on you, he/she will know that the spell failed, and depending on what the DM allows, may even be able to sense that you are not a "real" animal, because you Int will be too high. However, if you took over an animal that was already "friended", I think the Druid would be able to "sense" that the link was broken. You might be better off not attempting to impersonate a Animal Companion, but just an animal who happens to hang out around this druid, listening and using his disguise skill to avoid being found out. I think one of the Splatbook (T&B?) mentions that noone really suspects their horse or a dog wandering around, although this might be a lot harder with a Druid.

 

[Crothian]

An animal has an Int of 2 and isn't smart enough to bluff by pretending to be a friend.

Also pointed out was the fact that you know when a creature failed/made a saving throw against your spell.

Well, we are talking about a druid whildshaped into an animal, so they can bluff. And just becasue the saving throw fails doesn't mean much, animals can make that saveing throw. The Druid posing as an animal can still follow the other Druid around and treat him friendly.

 

[Wippit Guud]

Well, the DM orchestrated that her wolf died (nice of those goblins), and a couple of days later, she found a 'bear' with 3 arrows sticking out of him. Removed the arrows healed him up, and when she started to walk away, he followed.

Never even occurred to her to cast animal friendship (wasn't memorized anyways), and now the bear acts just like a companion, and she'll probably never notice.