Another Immortals Handbook thread

What do you wish from the Immortals Handbook?

  • I want to see rules for playing Immortals

    Votes: 63 73.3%
  • I want to see more Epic Monsters

    Votes: 33 38.4%
  • I want to see Artifacts and epic Magic Items

    Votes: 38 44.2%
  • I want to see truly Epic Spells and Immortal Magic

    Votes: 50 58.1%
  • I want Immortal Adventures and Campaigns Ideas

    Votes: 44 51.2%
  • I want to see a Pantheon (or two) detailed

    Votes: 21 24.4%
  • I want to see something else (post below)

    Votes: 3 3.5%
  • I don't like Epic/Immortal gaming

    Votes: 4 4.7%

  • Poll closed .
Nifelheim said:
Pointing open content during close content passages is not a problem, although you might want to make the same WotC made in the MM, the passages in italics in a monster write up identifies closed content, the remaining (then specify and speak of spell names and the like) are open content.


Actually, the MM has no open content. The passages in italics are read aloud text that a DM can use to describe the creature. While most of the MM's contents were released as open content, it wasn't within the confines of the MM, but rather the SRD. The only two books that WotC has released that make use of the OGL were Unearthed Arcana and MM2.

 

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Upper_Krust said:
I meant to add that I will probably remove the Vol.2 lists from the contents and CR Table and that will free up the space for the PI/OGC declaration.



It has not been officially released at the time of the Ennies being opened, therefore I don't want it entered, I can't see it as a viable product when its not even finished. :lol:

By next years competition I may have a few things to enter. ;)

You would have had to have entered it about 3 months ago to get it into this year's competition. You still have about 9 months for next year's competition.
 

CRGreathouse said:
You would have had to have entered it about 3 months ago to get it into this year's competition. You still have about 9 months for next year's competition.

Don't tell him that!

Now he'll settle back and tinker with it until it's "perfect". :eek:

Remember (nudge, nudge) how they said they were going to move up the deadlines to make it easier on judges and coordinators? And so actually UK would have to enter it in within 3 months? (wink)
 

Cheiromancer said:
Remember (nudge, nudge) how they said they were going to move up the deadlines to make it easier on judges and coordinators? And so actually UK would have to enter it in within 3 months? (wink)

Actually, moving up the deadline wouldn't be a bad thing -- the judges could really use some extra time.
 


Campbell,

I know MM is not OGC in any section of it, but I was refering to one book most have on their shelves and those passages in italic are not in the srd at all. I should have made it clear that the MM does not have open content inside, although there is content inside that can be found in the SRD. WotC books do not require the OGL, MM2 has two OGC monsters and UA is the only true OGL/D20 STL product they have.

And UK,

The names seem to follow the idea of the "crippled content" as previously outlined, you could make a spell called Anulael's Horrid Grasp, for example, and say Anulael is product identity, i tend to like this approach because other books may actually reference yours without needing to rewrite it, besides, this could possibly improve your sales if it happens.

Since your books are meant to be huge and have a unique approach to them, I doubt any company would really mean to re-publish it, or even large portions of it, but as far as the license goes, you can keep most of those stuff PI, I think it is a bad idea, if it was any good, companies around the web woudl be using it for their own products.

And for the content list, I don't know, but it seems just odd that the aberrations introduction is open and the others are all closed, but nothing wrong with it, I jsut think it is odd.

On the pedantic thing, I don't know, it is a product and not a post or opinion, the more user friendly the better to me, sure Atlas games seems a bit overzealous to me, but I tend to find the introductory text a good way tp shed light on the open/closed issue.
 

Nifelhein said:
I know MM is not OGC in any section of it, but I was refering to one book most have on their shelves and those passages in italic are not in the srd at all. I should have made it clear that the MM does not have open content inside, although there is content inside that can be found in the SRD. WotC books do not require the OGL, MM2 has two OGC monsters and UA is the only true OGL/D20 STL product they have.

WotC has several OGL products on the market, not just Unearthed Arcana. The others are from their d20 Modern line, though.

They don't have any products following the d20 STL, since they have no need to license their own logo.
 


Cheiromancer said:
Don't tell him that!

Now he'll settle back and tinker with it until it's "perfect". :eek:

Remember (nudge, nudge) how they said they were going to move up the deadlines to make it easier on judges and coordinators? And so actually UK would have to enter it in within 3 months? (wink)

LOL! :D
 

Hiya mate! :)

Nifelhein said:
And UK,

The names seem to follow the idea of the "crippled content" as previously outlined, you could make a spell called Anulael's Horrid Grasp, for example, and say Anulael is product identity, i tend to like this approach because other books may actually reference yours without needing to rewrite it, besides, this could possibly improve your sales if it happens.

The only point of confusion for me at this juncture are the names (specifically the monster names, not character names, or those mentioned in the Adventure Ideas).

Is there any logical point to making the names of monsters PI?

Nifelhein said:
Since your books are meant to be huge and have a unique approach to them, I doubt any company would really mean to re-publish it, or even large portions of it, but as far as the license goes, you can keep most of those stuff PI, I think it is a bad idea, if it was any good, companies around the web woudl be using it for their own products.

Surely no self respecting company will just copy and paste material wholesale, even if legally they could.

Nifelhein said:
And for the content list, I don't know, but it seems just odd that the aberrations introduction is open and the others are all closed, but nothing wrong with it, I jsut think it is odd.

I presume you mean Abominations. The abominations section is purely mechanical and basically just an upgrade/refresher of material that already exists in the ELH.
 

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