Another Immortals Handbook thread

What do you wish from the Immortals Handbook?

  • I want to see rules for playing Immortals

    Votes: 63 73.3%
  • I want to see more Epic Monsters

    Votes: 33 38.4%
  • I want to see Artifacts and epic Magic Items

    Votes: 38 44.2%
  • I want to see truly Epic Spells and Immortal Magic

    Votes: 50 58.1%
  • I want Immortal Adventures and Campaigns Ideas

    Votes: 44 51.2%
  • I want to see a Pantheon (or two) detailed

    Votes: 21 24.4%
  • I want to see something else (post below)

    Votes: 3 3.5%
  • I don't like Epic/Immortal gaming

    Votes: 4 4.7%

  • Poll closed .
I am just curious what, if anything, you gain from having beings that size?

To show what the pinnacle of alignment existance is.

Its worth noting that in the comics, cosmic beings are not depicted at the same size as the things they represent. For example, Eternity is the embodiment of the universe

Yes but each of these entities represents 10^100 prime units of space. So even at Xona-Titanic they are a micofraction of what they represent.
 

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Just read through the Bestiary

I just read through hte Bestiary and I must say that I am impressed! I really like the monsters overall, even if I never get to use most of them (my games will only reach between 35-40 tops). Still, there is plenty to use for my level of comfort. PLEASE get Apotheosis done! I have a campaign I need to start and I'd like to have it before the game gets to epic levels.
 

The party is still at ECL 42 right now. Of course I use the term party loosely as every character has their own separate areas most of the time.
 

Hiya mate! :)

RuleMaster said:
But the higher-level spells already give the higher DC for free - and everyone can research spells, which mimic a metamagicked spell. If you want to raise the DC to the maximum, then you will create such a spell in addition to the raising of ability scores and picking the appropriate feats.

If the DC is automatic then spells who rely on the that mechanic alone (save or be affected by 'x') are less effective at higher levels than their damage counterparts.

If I maximise a fireball and gain the increased DC as well, you can't boost 'save or be affected' spells by the same margin.
 

Hey Farealmer3 dude! :)

Farealmer3 said:
To show what the pinnacle of alignment existance is.

Yes but why would they manifest at that size, it doesn't make any sense! You can't really interact with anything at that size...at least nothing 'inside' the universe that is 'you'.

Farealmer3 said:
Yes but each of these entities represents 10^100 prime units of space. So even at Xona-Titanic they are a micofraction of what they represent.

A King may represent a Kingdom, but that doesn't mean he has to be 'kingdom-sized'. ;)

Xona-Titanic is, for all intents and purposes Universe sized. For such beings to interact they would have to go to a higher dimension (such as the 8th-dimension I describe in the bestiary).
 

Hey Animus! :)

Animus said:
I just read through hte Bestiary and I must say that I am impressed!

Thanks! ;)

Animus said:
I really like the monsters overall, even if I never get to use most of them (my games will only reach between 35-40 tops). Still, there is plenty to use for my level of comfort.

Well I tried to give a fairly decent spread, things like the dragons, elementals and golems also cover a lot of ground. The Epic Level Handbook covers a lot of 'low-epic' monsters so I didn't feel the need to 'play to that crowd' so much.

If I get to do a print version of the Bestiary I will likely increase it to 128 pages, with 51 monsters in it. I went over my notes and I have 150+ epic monsters in total, so there is enough for 3 volumes at the moment. I really would like to add the Elementars into the first volume as well as all the templates I left out (about 8). With one or two other additions this would increase volume 1 to 51 monsters (50 feasible monsters plus one ridiculous entry* just for fun)

*Such as the Neutronium Golem or Lipika.

Animus said:
PLEASE get Apotheosis done! I have a campaign I need to start and I'd like to have it before the game gets to epic levels.

I appreciate the concern, I will try to get it done as soon as possible without compromising the quality.
 

Hi Sledge mate! :)

Sledge said:
The party is still at ECL 42 right now. Of course I use the term party loosely as every character has their own separate areas most of the time.

What races/classes/levels/templates are the party...out of curiousity.
 


This is a bit off-topic, but since you brought up monsters, I guess I can slip this in. I was wondering, do you have a list of abilities and the CR adjustments they have? A lot of the monsters we do have strange abilities, and I have to guess, most of the time, at what they should be. At epic levels, it's even worse, since you have very little to compare them to, and I'm flying by the seat of my pants - I throw out a number and hope it works.
 

Hey Kerrick mate! :)

Kerrick said:
This is a bit off-topic, but since you brought up monsters, I guess I can slip this in. I was wondering, do you have a list of abilities and the CR adjustments they have? A lot of the monsters we do have strange abilities, and I have to guess, most of the time, at what they should be. At epic levels, it's even worse, since you have very little to compare them to, and I'm flying by the seat of my pants - I throw out a number and hope it works.

Well if the ability is not something thats been scaled up, I usually determine them by assigning one of the following figures which best represents them in comparison to other abilities:

0.1
0.2 = feat
0.5
1
2
5
10
20
50
etc.
 

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