Any advice for my Wilden Warden?

[Evilhalfling]

You can also take sudden roots - slow on OA is golden.
if you do you can retrain Weight of earth into thorn strike - I love that reach/pull option.

I just made a Widen/Warden @ 8th lvl for a LFR game tomorrow.
I also started with a Kopesh (love the flavor) but switched to battle axe.
ill let you know how he plays..

 

[Minifig]

Yeah, sudden roots looks like a must take later.

I will be curious to know how the Battle Axe works out, though, I think I'd miss my Khopesh too much because of it's Brutal 1's never miss ability. That's just a brilliant, brilliant thing.

 

[Mad Hamish]

Yeah, sudden roots looks like a must take later.

I will be curious to know how the Battle Axe works out, though, I think I'd miss my Khopesh too much because of it's Brutal 1's never miss ability. That's just a brilliant, brilliant thing.

Um, the Brutal reroll is only on the damage roll for the weapon, not the attack roll. So you don't hit any more with a Brutal weapon.

If you want a better chance to hit you're better off going for a +3 profieciency weapon.

 

[Minifig]

Um, the Brutal reroll is only on the damage roll for the weapon, not the attack roll. So you don't hit any more with a Brutal weapon.

Still, if I roll a 1.. having the ability to reroll that, is a wonderful thing because I will always roll higher than a 1, even if it is 2, it's still better than hitting 1[W]Power.

 

[DracoSuave]

Still, if I roll a 1.. having the ability to reroll that, is a wonderful thing because I will always roll higher than a 1, even if it is 2, it's still better than hitting 1[W]Power.

Bah!

Alright.... from some minmaxing standpoint:

Weapon Expertise isn't -that- great at first level. I mean, yeah, you want it eventually, but it's better to be more versatile than simply to hit a little bit more. Later on, it becomes more important tho.

Let's see, you're in Strength and Wisdom, but you're using a shield... so no weapon feats really are gonna help you that much. And you're a warden, so doing massive damage isn't your thing so much.

For weapons... turf the kopesh and replace your Weapon Expertise (for now) with Superior Weapon Prof. Bastard Sword. You'll want to save two feats for Superior Weapon Prof. Tratnyr, (and you want to get a Grasping Tratnyr. Encounter power that grabs an enemy from twenty squares away and forces them adjacent? Name one skill power that's better for a defender than THAT) Then down the road, get Versatile Expertise in Spear (as the weapon) and Heavy Blade (as the implement) which puts you ahead of where you can possibly be now.

 

[mneme]

Don't think of Brutal as a reroll ability--it doesn't let you reroll damage you don't like, just ones. So it makes more sense to think of a W die that's brutal as not having 1s (this bumps the average damage by .5). So a Kopesh has an average damage of 5, as opposed to 4.5 for the longsword.

This means that a Longsword is by and large a superior weapon to the Kopesh -- it is +3 for 4.5 damage, as opposed to +2 for 5 damage; better to have +1 to hit than +.5 to damage! Where the khopesh comes into its own is when you combine Heavy Blade abilities and Axe abilities -- but at 2nd level, you don't have a good chance to do that!

One thing to look at abusing if you stick with khopesh is Headman's Chop. Take lots of things that knock enemies prone (ideally, out of turn so they're still prone on your turn) and have fun doing +5 damage when they are. You're a warden, so there's lots of this stuff--even Roots of Stone at first level.

 

[Minifig]

For weapons... turf the kopesh and replace your Weapon Expertise (for now) with Superior Weapon Prof. Bastard Sword. You'll want to save two feats for Superior Weapon Prof. Tratnyr, (and you want to get a Grasping Tratnyr. Encounter power that grabs an enemy from twenty squares away and forces them adjacent? Name one skill power that's better for a defender than THAT) Then down the road, get Versatile Expertise in Spear (as the weapon) and Heavy Blade (as the implement) which puts you ahead of where you can possibly be now.

Shouldn't I just take Prof. Spears right now, and get a Tratnyr.. ?

Drop the Khopesh, and continue to use my shield, then eventually get a Grasping Enchant on it when I can?

The Bastard Sword feat seems like an additional step that I don't really need to do.

 

[Minifig]

Heck, I could just take a Longspear as I can use those without the proficiency, and get the Grasping Enchant.. and it still has the Reach to ... pull someone close.

That's a brilliant idea.

 

[Mad Hamish]

Just remember that if you go for the longspear now you do drop AC and Reflex so it's a trade off.

 

[Minifig]

That's a good point, I hadn't thought of that.