Any games to get excited about in 2009?

[Arnwyn]

They're absolutely exclusives. They might be Microsoft exclusives rather than simply Xbox 360, but exclusives nonetheless.

This doesn't make any sense, as it is, of course, irrelevent when discussing what 'system' a person might buy (which is the point of discussing exclusives, unless we have some amateur market analysts here making stock trading decisons. No? That's what I thought).

If someone can play GoW or Mass Effect without buying a 360, then it's not an exclusive in any relevant sense to the consumer.

Or one prefers, it can be called a console exclusive, which it should, as a PC is an entirely different animal from a console.

... the Xbox's foothold into PC gaming is a strength of the 360, not a weakness.

Gonna have to simply disagree here. I've seen enough discussion as to "what system should I buy if I want to play x" - with the PC as a system choice - to know that the above is an inaccurate statement, AFAIC.

 

[TwistedBishop]

If someone can play GoW or Mass Effect without buying a 360, then it's not an exclusive in any relevant sense to the consumer.

To most of those consumers, hardcore PC gaming may as well not exist. They're choosing between consoles and the Xbox has those titles while the PS3 doesn't. It's that simple.

 

[Arnwyn]

To most of those consumers, ... PC gaming may as well not exist. They're choosing between consoles and the Xbox has those titles while the PS3 doesn't. It's that simple.

*shrug* Sorry - I'm not with you.

PC is a system choice to play GoW or Mass Effect. It's that simple.

 

[Mallus]

I'm not the biggest shooter fan, but I find myself growing more interested in Killzone 2. Perhaps it's the ineffable allure of the chance to shoot space Nazis.

I'm also intrigued by the new trilogy of Dragon Quest remakes for the DS. Now if I could only get Amazon to sell me the time to play them...

 

[Arnwyn]

Dragon Quest V and Dragon Quest VI - the only DQs never before seen in North America. Woo!

 

[Felon]

If someone can play GoW or Mass Effect without buying a 360, then it's not an exclusive in any relevant sense to the consumer.

It's highly relevant for that someone wants to play a big gorgeous spectacle game on their big-screen HDTV.

*shrug* Sorry - I'm not with you.

PC is a system choice to play GoW or Mass Effect. It's that simple.

See above. If I'm playing a PC game, I'm sitting at a desk with a monitor a foot or so from my face, clicking a keyboard and/or sliding a mouse around. The experience is very different from what I get sitting in the middle of the room in front of my 62-incher. Might as well throw DS's and PSP's into the discussion.

If a person's dedicated to playing games on a PC, then they're not in the market for a console to begin with. They're not the target audience for exclusives. There's no allure. They don't want to play an FPS on with a controller. For them, the option to play Halo or GoW on their computer in the only option they care about. Of course, the fact that MS has that market helps them to afford exclusives in the first place.

 

[Mallus]

If I'm playing a PC game, I'm sitting at a desk with a monitor a foot or so from my face, clicking a keyboard and/or sliding a mouse around. The experience is very different from what I get sitting in the middle of the room in front of my 62-incher.

You could just hook your PC up to your big HDTV. Some friends of mine do that --oddly, not the married ones.

 

[Arnwyn]

It's highly relevant for that someone wants to play a big gorgeous spectacle game on their big-screen HDTV.

And so is the PS3 and PC having free online and the 360 a great for-pay service. And the controllers are all different. And how avatars are used is different. And the peripherals are different. Blah blah blah.

All wonderful factors to take into account when considering what system to buy a game on. Doesn't have anything to do with exclusive games, though.

Like I said: if I can buy GoW/etc on the PC and/or the 360 and/or other machines, it's not exclusive. Beyond that, the choice is up to the individual consumer based on a myriad of factors important to them - and they actually have that choice... therefore, not exclusive. (I'm sure other "definitions" of 'exclusive' are great and fascinating and all that - but I'm not on board with them.)

Might as well throw DS's and PSP's into the discussion.

Absolutely, if the same GoW/Mass Effect/whatever are on those systems. Let me know when that happens, so we can "throw (them) into the discussion".

 

[Steel_Wind]

If a person's dedicated to playing games on a PC, then they're not in the market for a console to begin with.

I see.

So. I have six gaming PCs. I ALSO have a Wii, A 360 and a PS3.

In addition to playing games on a PC, I run a company that makes PC Games as well.

Just exaclty how "dedicated" to playing games on a PC do I have to be before I'm "not in the market for a console"? Could you explain to me in what manner my dedication is lacking so I can get to work on fixing that?

Or perhaps a more accurate way of putting it is this: when you say "they" and "them", in fact, you mean something else entirely. You really mean: "me, and people who think like me".

That would be a far cry from citing the wants of the nameless and faceless "they" and "them" to somehow convince *somebody else* of the patent and obvious correctness of your view.

 

[Felon]

I see.

So. I have six gaming PCs. I ALSO have a Wii, A 360 and a PS3.

In addition to playing games on a PC, I run a company that makes PC Games as well.

Just exaclty how "dedicated" to playing games on a PC do I have to be before I'm "not in the market for a console"? Could you explain to me in what manner my dedication is lacking so I can get to work on fixing that?

Or perhaps a more accurate way of putting it is this: when you say "they" and "them", in fact, you mean something else entirely. You really mean: "me, and people who think like me".

Three words, buddy: pot, kettle, black. Given your own grandiose assertions about what everyone in the gaming industry does or doesn't think, you ought to spare me your accusations of hubris. Reality check: if you're gaming on every console and six different PC's, you're pretty much an aberration, not part of a demographic. So, unless you wish to contend that your Batcavesque setup is representative of the norm, what good does presenting it really do in terms of contradicting anything I've said?

Kindly accept that most people do have preferences of some kind. Maybe there are some guys who own an Xbox 360 but would rather wait for GoW2 to be ported to PC, but they're a negligible bunch. And they're windmill-tilters to boot, because no PC port for GoW2 is forthcoming--it's exclusive even by your standards. But if there was a port in coming in six more months, the 360 owners are by and large not going to wait, and that's borne out by how badly the PC port of GoW1 sold.

(I'm sure other "definitions" of 'exclusive' are great and fascinating and all that - but I'm not on board with them.)

And there you go, right at the heart of the matter: you're dug into your position and aren't going to budge an inch. What've we got left to discuss in this little threadjack? The size of the chips on people's shoulders?