Any spontaneous arcane casters that use Int as casting stat?


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Or he could go with Duskblade for the spontaneous casting half if he prefers handing out smack instead of talking smack. :) You only have to be able to cast 1st-level spells spontanously so the slow casting progression doesn't hurt you there.

Wow. At first glance that Ultimate Magus class looks pretty good. Possibly too good, but it's hard to say. Full caster progression for the lesser of your two classes and near-full for the other. And the equivalent of the Practiced Spellcaster feat as well if you take all 10 levels.

PLUS a spiffy ability to let you do spontaneous metamagic by burning spell slots.
 


Ilium said:
Or he could go with Duskblade for the spontaneous casting half if he prefers handing out smack instead of talking smack. :) You only have to be able to cast 1st-level spells spontanously so the slow casting progression doesn't hurt you there.

Wow. At first glance that Ultimate Magus class looks pretty good. Possibly too good, but it's hard to say. Full caster progression for the lesser of your two classes and near-full for the other. And the equivalent of the Practiced Spellcaster feat as well if you take all 10 levels.

PLUS a spiffy ability to let you do spontaneous metamagic by burning spell slots.
If you're crafty, you can take Practiced Spellcaster for your spontaneous spellcasting class, and get the first two "lesser" boosts into your prepared spellcasting class.

It does, however, have essentially the same trouble that the Arcane Heirophant has - you're (normally) supporting two casting stats, and you have a meaningfully delayed spell progression (can cut it down to two levels over the course of your career, mind, but that means no 9th level spells until 19th)
 

Ilium said:
Or he could go with Duskblade for the spontaneous casting half if he prefers handing out smack instead of talking smack. :) You only have to be able to cast 1st-level spells spontanously so the slow casting progression doesn't hurt you there.

Wow. At first glance that Ultimate Magus class looks pretty good. Possibly too good, but it's hard to say. Full caster progression for the lesser of your two classes and near-full for the other. And the equivalent of the Practiced Spellcaster feat as well if you take all 10 levels.

PLUS a spiffy ability to let you do spontaneous metamagic by burning spell slots.
It needs to be good--it modifies the worst possible two class multiclass combination allowable under core rules. In fact, when I was talking to my kid brother, I said "So they finally made a prestige class for the worst multiclass ever." His reply: "Oh, you mean Wizard/Sorcerer? Yeah, you need to give some serious bonuses or that's still a terrible idea."
 

Ilium said:
Wow. At first glance that Ultimate Magus class looks pretty good. Possibly too good, but it's hard to say. Full caster progression for the lesser of your two classes and near-full for the other. And the equivalent of the Practiced Spellcaster feat as well if you take all 10 levels.

It looks good, but not too good.

By 15th level when you've finished the PRC you have caster level 15 in both classes; and spells known/perday of 11th/11th Sor/Wiz.

By giving up 7th & 8th level spells you can freely apply metamagic to 5th & lower spells, which effectively puts you one spell-level ahead given the metacap (ignoring Persistent) as you can Quicken or Twin a 5th level spell by sacrificing a slot, effectively giving you a 9th-level equivalent.

So overall it looks solid, but (imho) not broken.
 

Jack Simth said:
If you're crafty, you can take Practiced Spellcaster for your spontaneous spellcasting class, and get the first two "lesser" boosts into your prepared spellcasting class.

Sneaky. Looks like it just works given the wording of both.
 

Pyrex said:
Sneaky. Looks like it just works given the wording of both.
Even better, after you've taken all you want to of the PrC, those boosts are fixed - so if you later take Practiced Spellcaster (Wizard).....
 

Pyrex said:
By 15th level when you've finished the PRC you have caster level 15 in both classes; and spells known/perday of 11th/11th Sor/Wiz.
With a bit of work/cheese with Practiced Spellcaster you can shift that to...

Caster Sor/Wiz: 17/17
Spells Sor/Wiz: 9/13

At 15th; not overly shabby. Spells you expect to use a lot (Fly, Invisibility, Shield, Dispel Magic, et cetera) go on your Sorcerer side, spells you use once or twice a day go on your Wizard side. Open spell slots on the Wizard side for preparing for special circumstances

Oh, and you can Persist a 4th level spell on your Sorcerer side by burning a 6th level spell from your Wizard side. Which can be worth it. Heighten is a curious conundrum that you'd need to talk to your DM about. Or you can just get a "free" Quicken on your Wizard spells four or five times a day. Your call.
 

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