Anybody interested in playing Shadowrun?

[Douane]

a) Where exactly are the Edges & Flaws detailed? I borrowed some books, but can't find it. (and what does Aptitude do?)

In the „SR Compendium, revised for 3rd edition". Aptitude lowers the target number for stealth-related tasks by one.


e) I thought monofilament whip only cost .10 Essence for the fingertip compartment?

That's the way I have always handled it.


f) Why would I maybe have wanted Stealth to be SO high?
Is it overkill, or can the extra-high scores be used effectively?

In my opinion, 11 is somewhat overkill. Quoting from the 3rd Rulesbook "Active Skill 8+: Only two words can describe your use of the skill of the class: World Class". Even with that skill of 9 you are way more skilled than most people can ever hope to be. (And as firm believer in dice and luck I will add, if you can‘t do with 9 dice those 2 extra won‘t help. )


g) What book is Nervestrike from, and what does it do?

It is from „Magic in the Shadows". Paraphrased effect: standard unarmed combat attack agianst target number 4 (+Impact armor of opponent), every 2 successes will reduce opponent‘s quickness by 1. On quickness 0 he‘s paralyzed.


h) Ruthenium Polymer is 10,000 per square meter. I don't know how much material it would take to cover a smallish man. +5,000 for an image projector.

IIRC , just the body surface of man with your stated weight and height would be something over 2 square meters, so a suit would have to have more, ie. 3 square meters. You also need at least
4 scanners, so it sums up to 50,000 at least. I sincerely doubt it is worth that.


Folkert

 

[reapersaurus]

It's all very helpful - thanks!
And fun, too - I really do like learning rules. (to a point)

0) Where are you getting the 50,000 cost for Rujtenium Polymer?
The only figure I've seen is 10,000 per square meter. I'd guess a human could be plenty covered in 2 square meters, and then one image scanner puts it at 25,000. Wait a minute.
Street Index of 2!
That's what that does - gotcha.
OK - is it possible that we get money in game and he can smuggle out one of those suits that he used to use as an assassin for the Shiawase corporation? (Or if we're completely inexperienced, than he would have used it in practice)

1) Yes, Nervestrike sounds cool, and I really enjoy both of your suggestions.
I don't think I'll go that direction, though, since that implies a hand-to-hand combatant, and if I decked out Inue in that way, I'd likely add Killing Hands, etc.
I want him more of a dextrous, stealthy killer-from-the-shadows guy. You don't see him till it's too late, and then yoiu're sliced in half by the monofilament whip.

2) I didn't know the Adept boosts weren't that useable?
Sounds like a tough call between the boost and Improved Physical Attribute.
Too expensive, though - what do you guys think?

3) Very interesting suggestions with the cyberware, all.
I like it when cyberware gives something that other more mundane things can't get you. (or does it significantly better).
I hadn't thought of the Balance thing - that does match what I remember of the vat-grown ninja from Johnny Mnemonic.
It's just so expensive!
It's definately something I'm considering.
The Bone Lacing again pusjes Inue into a hand-to-hand melle combatant, and if he gets that close, he'd be using the whip.

Smartlink only gets 1 more than a non-cyber smartgun, right?
I'm thinking of just using a Smartgun, linked with a special helmet that goes with his stealth costume:
the helmet would be based on a Security Helmet, but not provide any armor benefits.
It would be cloth-like with wires and a Vision System, with the features (Thermo, etc) that Shalimar nicely suggested. It's a great ide to cyber that stuff... I just think it's better to not have it cyberware if you can get almost the same effect with gear.
Does that sound right to you guys?

And Shalimar - I'm sure you're spot on, about how I'm lucky with the whip costs.
And about Pressure Points - it really was just a flavor thing, since I couldn't find any other Knowledge skills that interested me.
Forget about the Ventriloquism, since I can't find the Holgraphic Projector.

 

[Douane]

Oh yeah!
I just remembered/found where I previously had put the Infrared, and an external transducer in a Security Helmet (pg 284), getting (I think) some extra protection, and cheaper cost, no Essence reduction, too.

Does that sound like a good idea?
Would that work? I could get all the stuff I'd want (thermo, mag, infrared, etc (pg 281 & 282)) relatively cheap (compared to cyberware?)

Also, to clarify:
A Smartgun can be used with the Smartgoogles feature of a Security Helmet, providing -1 to shots with that weapon.
The Smartlink raises that to -2, but with a hefty Essence cost, and pricetag.
Maybe instead of that, would Boosted Reflexes be good?
I can't find where it states what Level 1 Boosted Reflexes does, exactly....

It would indeed be cheaper to add the visual options to an helmet, IIRC however it won't add to your armor, as helmets are designed to be used with heavy armor.
[EDIT: I am wrong here, helmets seem to add to any kind of armor.]

Right on with the smartgun.

Boosted reflexes won't do you any good, since you have already improved them via adept abilities. (They don't add.)


Folkert

 

[Shalimar]

Your right, I did the body surface area calc on him, 1.98 meters, so you would have to buy 2 meters if you attached it to form fitting body armor, but if you attached it to that, then you wear no other armor, none. If you had it put on a secure long coat so you could hide your gear as well you would need to buy another meter as only form fitting body armor actually comes close to matching your surface area.

You have to buy a minimum of 4 scanners, part of the rules for that equipment. So for you to get it with form fitting body armor would cost 40k. On a secure long coat(Which leaves hands and head and feat bare) 50k. To add it to a helmet and gloves and boots to complete the outfit would cost 10k for the material, and 60k for the scanners. Total of 120k to buy enough to be able to conceal your self and anygear that you carry with you. Damn expensive. But its hightech stuff, and that isn't cheap, not at all.

 

[Douane]

Originally posted by reapersaurus


0) Where are you getting the 50,000 cost for Rujtenium Polymer?
The only figure I've seen is 10,000 per square meter. I'd guess a human could be plenty covered in 2 square meters, and then one image scanner puts it at 25,000.

Reaper, your body surface alone is 2 square meters, so the suit would better be larger, otherwise it will be a really tight fit . The rules I read indicated that you would need at least 4 scanners to have any kind of effect.



1) Yes, Nervestrike sounds cool, and I really enjoy both of your suggestions.
I don't think I'll go that direction, though, since that implies a hand-to-hand combatant, and if I decked out Inue in that way, I'd likely add Killing Hands, etc.
I want him more of a dextrous, stealthy killer-from-the-shadows guy.

Okay, understood.


2) I didn't know the Adept boosts weren't that useable?
Sounds like a tough call between the boost and Improved Physical Attribute.
Too expensive, though - what do you guys think?

Aargh, I'm very sorry. I just reread the list I sent you on adept powers: It falsely states "improved phys attr" cost at 0.25, in fact it is 0.5.
So you could add +2 your quickness for that one point. Is it worth it? I don't know.


3) Very interesting suggestions with the cyberware, all.
I like it when cyberware gives something that other more mundane things can't get you. (or does it significantly better).
I hadn't thought of the Balance thing - that does match what I remember of the vat-grown ninja from Johnny Mnemonic.
It's just so expensive!
It's definately something I'm considering.
The Bone Lacing again pusjes Inue into a hand-to-hand melle combatant, and if he gets that close, he'd be using the whip.

OK, got it, no 'Remo'. Damn!


Smartlink only gets 1 more than a non-cyber smartgun, right?
I'm thinking of just using a Smartgun, linked with a special helmet that goes with his stealth costume:
the helmet would be based on a Security Helmet, but not provide any armor benefits.
It would be cloth-like with wires and a Vision System, with the features (Thermo, etc) that Shalimar nicely suggested. It's a great ide to cyber that stuff... I just think it's better to not have it cyberware if you can get almost the same effect with gear.
Does that sound right to you guys?

No problem!

 

[Douane]

@ Shalimar:

I've since gone over your character, background and stuff. There is one thing still unclear in my mind:

Why shadowrunning? (Especially since Angel could get legal and less dangerous employment.)


Thanks,

Folkert

 

[Shalimar]

She wouldn't really do well pychologically speaking as a corp wage-slave, and she really just sees this as a temporary until she goes back to the Tir. She really is a thrill seeker at heart, she puts up with bodygaurding and the parties and formal events out of a sense of duty to her family. If she had grown up without them instilling that in her, or without their vast resources, she would most certainly be a runner already, the frame up got her out on her own.

 

[Douane]

Thanks!

I had already come to the opinion that "sprawling" would be a major factor in Angel's motivation. Good to see that I wasn't too far off.


Folkert

 

[Shalimar]

I have been thinking really hard on this, and, if its okay with you Folkert, I'd rather remove Angel's Cyber-ware, all 180k of it, its not really necessary for her, and I think she would rather not polute her body with it. She can replace those things external units as Reap said. This way her magic wont need to be limited by a Geas.

Heres the break down of expenditures to use the cash:
4 spell points 100k (3 for the focus) 1 point to learn Clean Air
Force 3 Improved invis. Sustaining focus 45k
Mono-whip 9k
2 pairs of mirrored Shades with Thermo, Smartlink 2 16k
(Is it possible to add image Vision Mag 3 to these shades?)

18,615 left (subtract whatever for the vision mag 3 for the two glasses)

I want to change her whips 3 to whips/mono-whips 2/4(Eventually when I am able to buy a weapon focus, It'll be a mono-whip, so I want to be good with it)

 

[Tory Adore]

Douane, I sent a background to you via e:mail per your request for Bowie. Please feel free to change anything or add anything you need.

Thank you again to Shalimar for doing Bowie's stats. I think I'm ready to go now.

Tory