Anyone know about NETHACK, like how to win it?

[dreaded_beast]

So, anyone wanna give a list of good nethack or rogue-like clones.

 

[fuindordm]

So, anyone wanna give a list of good nethack or rogue-like clones.

The big three have already been mentioned.

I haven't played nethack in a long time, but my only win was with a Tourist, of all things. Definitely a silly game, and far from balanced, but still great fun. Nethack
is a pretty direct descendant of the original rogue. It's very difficult to win mainly
because you have to get lucky in a lot of different ways--there are a few points in the game were it's possible to get stuck because you never found the item you need to get farther.

Angband is a roguelike game with a Tolkien feel. It's not silly like Nethack is, and
the mechanics are more robust and balanced. Essentially it's just a 100-level
dungeon with the occasional unique monster, potent artifact, or vault room (a complex room containing valuable treasures and difficult monsters) to spice
things up. It's a lot more fun to play magic-users in Angband because you have a wide variety of spells in your books and you can cast them as much as you want. The dungeon levels are large (several screens, not just one) and fun to explore. The random number generator is your ally and enemy. It can be quite thrilling to stumble across an artifact sword early in the game, and you'll kick butt for a while. But if you get too cocky you can also run into Azog the orc king long before you're ready to face him and get your butt handed to you! I have never won Angband.

ADOM is halfway between the two, and I think better than either. It has an overriding story and lots of side quests like Nethack, but without the silly add-ons. (Well, there are some silly things in it, but not enough to break the mood.) It has an awesome variety of class and race combinations as well. It's also one of the few roguelikes with a bit of role-play in it; you have to make choices throughout the game than affect your alignment, which in turn affects your options later in the game. I've won ADOM twice, and still go back for more!

Zangband is Angband with lots more character options and monster types, and many silly aspects. There are a couple of dozen Angband variants out there,
each with it's own theme. The source code is easy to read and modify; one of the great things about Angband is that you can play the game a while, then change all the things about it you don't like to suit your taste.

--Ben

 

[LostSoul]

I've played quite a bit of ADOM and it's pretty good. The chaos always gets me though.

 

[fuindordm]

I've played quite a bit of ADOM and it's pretty good. The chaos always gets me though.

The chaos is a problem. There are two ways around this:

1) Get lots of scrolls of chaos resistance. There are three quests that will reward you with a nice stack of them, but they may not all be available to all characters. Don't forget to bless them.

2) Finish the game quickly, before day 90. This means that you can't waste time
going back and forth across the valley or pursuing every side quest as it becomes available. Some of the quests are unavoidable, but some are just icing. In particular,
the more of the Caverns of Chaos you can finish before day 90 the better off you are
since you can move quickly up and down the completed levels and avoid excess
background corruption.

3) If you can find seven league boots, you can relax a bit and take your time on the side quests because overland travel won't waste days and days of your time.

--Ben

 

[Henry]

Moved to Software & Computers.

 

[Tiew]

Those games are all great! Has anybody every played OMEGA though? It's not as fair as ADOM, Nethack, or Angband but it's still a whole lot of fun. It has a world, multiple dungeons, quests to do, dieties to follow, guilds to rise in, and a big central city. I've risen to the top of several of the guilds, but once I learned a few of the cheap tricks you can use to get an advantage it became less fun. Still might be my favorite though... Sigh, so hard to choose!

Tiew

 

[MaxKaladin]

I played Omega some back around the time I was in High School. Prior to that, I also had a game called DND that came with a dungeon called "Telengard", IIRC, and was designed to take "add-on" dungeons. We played that a lot at lunch during High School. It was a game like these other, but seemed to be a more direct ripoff of D&D.

 

[Mercule]

I've spent many, many hours on Angband. It's a fun game. I think I may have to try out ADOM, now, though. Sounds even more my style.

The source code is easy to read and modify; one of the great things about Angband is that you can play the game a while, then change all the things about it you don't like to suit your taste.

Okay, this should get boos real quick-like.

Does anyone know of a rogue-like game done in .NET? Since I'm a VB.NET developer, that'd be great if I ever did want to tweak stuff.

 

[Vocenoctum]

Don't genocide wraiths before you hit level 30 (and then some).

I'd never genocide wraiths, usually I bring them in with a Cursed Genocide actually.

genocide: L ; R
hmm, the rest I can put up with. Genociding @ is funny too.

 

[devilish]

>>Anyone kinow about NETHACK, like how to win it?

A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?
--Joshua, War Games.


-D
Zangband addict!