Eden Studios Inc
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Now that this has shipped and arrived in retail stores, I was wondering what people thought of our d20 monster book.
Any comments?
Any comments?
Anyone pick up the Liber Bestarius yet?
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Desdichado
Hero
Haven't seen it yet, more's the pity. I've been looking forward to it, too.
But I haven't been in a game store since Friday.
But I haven't been in a game store since Friday.
Furn_Darkside
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Salutations,
My LGS is a bunch of flubs, and Talon Comics has not updated recently. I am going to have to find an alternate route to get it.
FD
My LGS is a bunch of flubs, and Talon Comics has not updated recently. I am going to have to find an alternate route to get it.
FD
Upper_Krust
Legend
I'll be looking out for it!
Enjoyed the preview a while back.
Enjoyed the preview a while back.
The Sigil
Mr. 3000 (Words per post)
My thoughts...
Grabbed it, went through it over the weekend. Here are my quick thoughts (not trying to be good or bad, just honest)...
Author's Foreword... to be honest, I found it offensive and unprofessional due to the dropping of "s--- bombs and reference to "f bombs" (though f was not spelled out as s was)" I don't need to see that material ANYWHERE in my gaming library. I can put up with a "d" or an "h" or even the odd "a." I can put up with occasional topless women (as long as it's done tastefully). But I draw the line at "s." I can't phrase strongly enough my disappointment at the level of unprofessionalism here.
(As a completely unrelated aside, I note that the Foreword was written in Orange County, CA. That's where I live, so you blokes are locals!
)
Monsters themselves - largely cool, good job with the stats and LOVED the illustrations. These are nifty monsters, though I thought it was bad gaming form to say, "these are supposed to be super tough - the CR's really should be adjusted by one upward." Why are you artificially lowering the CRs? Is it to make the monsters "bigger and better" than what's already out there? That seems to be the worst type of "power escalation" for "munchkin DMs." A minor complaint (related to the complaint on author's foreword)The "X Badass" entry for characters made from a given race seemed a bit unprofessional and juvenile though.
Price: Content ratio - average, I guess. I felt even though it was a hardcover, the content was a bit slim.
On the whole - I liked the monsters themselves - wonderful illustration, lots of inventive concepts - but the tone of the book outside of the monsters themselves came off as juvenile, unprofessional, and "munchkin DM-esque" (as in, "Well, I'll just throw bigger, badder creatures at you and give you less XP!")
Again, not trying to bash here - you guys know your stuff with monsters (the good) but the tone of the work came across as very badly immature (the bad).
Bottom line: Loved the monsters and highly recommend the monsters themselves, but not so much the "iconic" monsters (X Badass) and certainly NOT the whole of the book.
--The Sigil
Grabbed it, went through it over the weekend. Here are my quick thoughts (not trying to be good or bad, just honest)...
Author's Foreword... to be honest, I found it offensive and unprofessional due to the dropping of "s--- bombs and reference to "f bombs" (though f was not spelled out as s was)" I don't need to see that material ANYWHERE in my gaming library. I can put up with a "d" or an "h" or even the odd "a." I can put up with occasional topless women (as long as it's done tastefully). But I draw the line at "s." I can't phrase strongly enough my disappointment at the level of unprofessionalism here.
(As a completely unrelated aside, I note that the Foreword was written in Orange County, CA. That's where I live, so you blokes are locals!
)Monsters themselves - largely cool, good job with the stats and LOVED the illustrations. These are nifty monsters, though I thought it was bad gaming form to say, "these are supposed to be super tough - the CR's really should be adjusted by one upward." Why are you artificially lowering the CRs? Is it to make the monsters "bigger and better" than what's already out there? That seems to be the worst type of "power escalation" for "munchkin DMs." A minor complaint (related to the complaint on author's foreword)The "X Badass" entry for characters made from a given race seemed a bit unprofessional and juvenile though.
Price: Content ratio - average, I guess. I felt even though it was a hardcover, the content was a bit slim.
On the whole - I liked the monsters themselves - wonderful illustration, lots of inventive concepts - but the tone of the book outside of the monsters themselves came off as juvenile, unprofessional, and "munchkin DM-esque" (as in, "Well, I'll just throw bigger, badder creatures at you and give you less XP!")
Again, not trying to bash here - you guys know your stuff with monsters (the good) but the tone of the work came across as very badly immature (the bad).
Bottom line: Loved the monsters and highly recommend the monsters themselves, but not so much the "iconic" monsters (X Badass) and certainly NOT the whole of the book.
--The Sigil
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Eden Studios Inc
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tsadkiel said:
I just mailed out a bulk of the artist comps today.
Eden Studios Inc
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Re: My thoughts...
Sigil
Thanks for the honest review
The Sigil said:Grabbed it, went through it over the weekend. Here are my quick thoughts (not trying to be good or bad, just honest)...
Author's Foreword... to be honest, I found it offensive and unprofessional due to the dropping of "s--- bombs and reference to "f bombs" (though f was not spelled out as s was)" I don't need to see that material ANYWHERE in my gaming library. I can put up with a "d" or an "h" or even the odd "a." I can put up with occasional topless women (as long as it's done tastefully). But I draw the line at "s." I can't phrase strongly enough my disappointment at the level of unprofessionalism here.
(As a completely unrelated aside, I note that the Foreword was written in Orange County, CA. That's where I live, so you blokes are locals!
Monsters themselves - largely cool, good job with the stats and LOVED the illustrations. These are nifty monsters, though I thought it was bad gaming form to say, "these are supposed to be super tough - the CR's really should be adjusted by one upward." Why are you artificially lowering the CRs? Is it to make the monsters "bigger and better" than what's already out there? That seems to be the worst type of "power escalation" for "munchkin DMs." A minor complaint (related to the complaint on author's foreword)The "X Badass" entry for characters made from a given race seemed a bit unprofessional and juvenile though.
Price: Content ratio - average, I guess. I felt even though it was a hardcover, the content was a bit slim.
On the whole - I liked the monsters themselves - wonderful illustration, lots of inventive concepts - but the tone of the book outside of the monsters themselves came off as juvenile, unprofessional, and "munchkin DM-esque" (as in, "Well, I'll just throw bigger, badder creatures at you and give you less XP!")
Again, not trying to bash here - you guys know your stuff with monsters (the good) but the tone of the work came across as very badly immature (the bad).
Bottom line: Loved the monsters and highly recommend the monsters themselves, but not so much the "iconic" monsters (X Badass) and certainly NOT the whole of the book.
--The Sigil
Sigil
Thanks for the honest review
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