Anyone seen Dragon 352 yet?

[Desdichado]

Listen, if you're sure your library will have the issue at a specific date then more power to you. I thought you deserved to be told that people are geniunely not receiving the issue, and not simply ignoring your request. To be effectively called a liar and then suffer an eyeroll smiley (and wise is the gamer board that removes that one from the smiley database) is not exactly the response I was expecting. I think that's understandable.

And I think you're being a bit disingenious.

 

[BOZ]

i can be patient, i can be patient, i can be patient, i can be patient, i can be patient, i can be patient...

 

[Pants]

And I think you're being a bit disingenious.

Well, you're a poopy head.

 

[Nightfall]

Moving along...

So anyone actually GET this issue?

 

[BOZ]

not that i've head, but there's still time...

 

[Kishin]

But I won't argue that he's not necessarily a good writer. Although I will point out that sales and popularity are a better indicator of being a "good writer" than conventional novel writing standards anyway.

Except that this would indicate that Terry Brooks and R.A. Salvatore are 'good writers', which is completely false.

Mieville catches flak for his writing for being a Weird Tales-sort of writer. I'm pretty sure people were accusing Robert E. Howard, H.P Lovecraft and Clark Ashton Smith of the same faults.

 

[Desdichado]

Except that this would indicate that Terry Brooks and R.A. Salvatore are 'good writers', which is completely false.

They're decent. They'll be forgotten a few years after their last book is published, but they do the job. I'm not trying to say that they're good, because I certainly don't believe that, but your post smacks of bashing something just because it's popular, which I think is a failing that we as "geek culture" indulge in far to often.

Mieville catches flak for his writing for being a Weird Tales-sort of writer. I'm pretty sure people were accusing Robert E. Howard, H.P Lovecraft and Clark Ashton Smith of the same faults.

Who gives him flak for that? Nobody here in this thread, for sure. I've never heard that as a problem with his writing either.

And although Clark Ashton Smith was a consumately talented writer, it's not hard to pick a bone or two with the writing styles of REH or HPL either. HPL in particular got (and still gets) a lot of flak for his overblown purple prose, and REH for his over-reliance on cliched turns of phrases ("mighty thews", anyone?) and awkward writing.

Both are justifiably famous today because they had some other strengths that make their work very enjoyable, but neither is really known as a good writer.

 

[el-remmen]

In fact, in Perdido Street Station, the only thing that was described in any way as colorful, attractive, or beautiful was the most evil, nasty monsters of them all.

The writing was good, but the end experience was just so unpleasant that I really don't want to go back there.

Ha! That what I love about them. And Iron Council was great, too!

 

[Nightfall]

Again!

Moving along.

No sign then Boz?

 

[BOZ]

not that i know of.