AoO

[lokiqc]

Hi

I have a couple of players that have a great deal of difficulty understanding the rules for AoO.

I remember seeing a good explanation of it in Dragon magazine and maybe it was added in later PH editions?

Can someone point me to it?

Thanks

 

[Flyspeck23]

Not sure what issue number it is, but you can also find these explanation in the back of most Player's Handbooks (behind the index and the character sheet, topic Role Models ).

Hope that helps.

 

[Drawmack]

AoO made easy:

First the rules state that if someone moves out of or through a threated square, but not simply into it, you get an AoO.

You can simplify this by stating if someone exist a threatened square as to move through you enter and exist in the same movement. It is exiting the square that is important.

When Do You Threaten:

A character with a 5' reach and a normal weapon threatens as below:

xxx
xCx
xxx

squares marked x are threatened.

If anyone on the board moves out of any of the squares marked x the character is allow an AoO.

 

[lokiqc]

oh.. I know the rules are easy...they don't

Although I've explained the rules very clearly ( I think!!) they either find the rules stupid or just argue ad nauseam over them. I've had to say that was enough last week and some players were disgrunted.

I rememer seeing diagrams and pictures very well made. And I believe you're right, it's in the PH. Unfortunately all of us have the 1st printing :-(

Thanks

 

[DreamChaser]

perhaps it would help if you told us what their arguments were about. what about AoO are they not getting? do they want to use it more liberally? do they think it shouldn't apply to them? is this them really not understanding or do they simply not like the rules?

DC

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

Follow the Articles link from the ENWorld news page. There's a link where you can download the Dragon AoO *.pdf (as well as an online AoO document).

 

[lokiqc]

Last week problem arised when someone attacked an ogre. The ogre got an AoO when the PC closed in to make a melee attack. Very straightforward stuff....

He then got into an argument that he didn't get an AoO when monsters closed in on him. Explaining to him that the ogre reach is 10ft was no help. He has difficulty grasping the "moving through" vs "moving into" distinction. That's why I wanted to have the diagrams to show him.


Thanks

 

[lokiqc]

Thanks Olgar...exactly what I was looking for

 

[Drawmack]

He then got into an argument that he didn't get an AoO when monsters closed in on him. Explaining to him that the ogre reach is 10ft was no help. He has difficulty grasping the "moving through" vs "moving into" distinction. That's why I wanted to have the diagrams to show him.

Attempt to explain it as moving out of instead of moving through.

That is what the rule really means anyway. I found that when I changed the wording of the rule to move out of instead of move through or out of that cleared a lot of things up with my group.

 

[melkoriii]

I.v explaned it like Basket Ball

Once you stop dribbling you cant move your foot or its a Traveling.

Once you enter a Threated space you cant move or they get a AoO.