Arcane Archer busted?

[Shard O'Glase]

not offended. but I just disagree. As a general rule I agree most things aren't broaken, you jsut got an overly powergaming character.(frequently its me) It comes much easier the mroe feats that come out. some abilities/feats/spells etc. don't look bad by themselves, but once you start comboing them they take over the world.

Now there are some things that are flat out on thier face broaken. and i'm not talking about my spelling, there just are some powers,feats, class abilties, spells whatever that flat out are either way too good or way too bad. It sorta comes with the rapid expansion of supplements with gagillians of feats seplls etc. Heck there are some things(mostly spells) that flat out don't work well in the PH and that was over-playtested.

 

[Arcanus]

not offended. but I just disagree. As a general rule I agree most things aren't broaken, you jsut got an overly powergaming character.(frequently its me) It comes much easier the mroe feats that come out. some abilities/feats/spells etc. don't look bad by themselves, but once you start comboing them they take over the world.

Now there are some things that are flat out on thier face broaken. and i'm not talking about my spelling, there just are some powers,feats, class abilties, spells whatever that flat out are either way too good or way too bad. It sorta comes with the rapid expansion of supplements with gagillians of feats seplls etc. Heck there are some things(mostly spells) that flat out don't work well in the PH and that was over-playtested.

Shard you have a point.
Even if you decided to post a reply before Thursday.
I've calmed down a little bit.

Yes some mechanics are not what they should be and some spells require modifications. BUT if you don't fix the problems yourselves then you are part of the problem.

Hell most of the time I try to be the problem.
I AM A POWERGAMING WEENIE!
I pay the price whenever I concentrate too much at excelling in one thing, that something else becomes a major issue and BOOM there goes my Uber Character. Mords Disjunction, Dispel, Anti-magic zone etc............... Rogues.....pickpocket little rats.

 

[Bloodstone]

There is very little a +1 Brilliant Energy Composite Long Bow of Seeking can do...

-Fletch!

I've played in a game where a player had this exact bow configuration...well, actually it had shocking burst too, but that's beside the point... I never thought to check if it was legel before I posted all that.

How embarasing...

 

[mirivor]

I didn't mean to start anything here... sorry, guys. In response to a jab by my gaming companion who referred to me as "Taking Dragon magazine as gospel".... Yes, I tend to accept their explanation. The writers at Dragon tend to be level-headed and up-to-date. Also, they have the Sage. These various sources spend a LOT more time, generally, with the game than any of us. So I turn to them for explanations on rules that seem out-of-whack. They are what I think of as "uniquely independent". They don't know what mkletch and mirivor are fighting about, they just give their (typically) professional opinion or, in the Sage's and Monte Cook's case, the rules as they intended them to be.

I only believe that the "seeker arrow" is broken because it just seems too easy. "I see a leaf move. I tell my arrow to blast whatever just moved the leaf." Seems too easy, even for a prestige class. All intelligent replies welcome, non-intelligent ones are welcome to. Later!

 

[Arcanus]

mirivor, It isn't your fault at all.

Yes the way some people play Seeker Arrow 'seems to easy' it is up to the DM to determine how he wants the Seeker Arrow to function.

I myself would at the bare minimum say that you have to have seen the target or someone with you has to have at least seen the target. Even if it was just his shadow.

I'll stop now becuase I don't want to further any debating on the issue for now.

 

[AuraSeer]

I just rule that you need to identify the target in such a way that you'd know him if you saw him. A decent rule of thumb is, if a Magic Mouth couldn't pick out the target, neither can the arrow.

The arrow can't target "the nearest orc around the corner" unless you know what an orc looks like. You can't shoot at "the person who stole the crown jewels" because the arrow can't read thoughts. It also cannot distinguish based on character class, level, hit dice, alignment, or any other metagame qualities.

You can't target "whoever moved the leaf" if you have no other information about the target. However, if you suspect that person is still up in the tree, you can fire at "the person in that tree." If there's no one up there, you automatically miss. If there's more than one person in that tree, you hit the closest.

 

[mkletch]

You can't target "whoever moved the leaf" if you have no other information about the target. However, if you suspect that person is still up in the tree, you can fire at "the person in that tree." If there's no one up there, you automatically miss. If there's more than one person in that tree, you hit the closest.

I would actually rule (if I were DM instead of player in the case), that if you said "I shoot the person in the tree", and there are actually two, you would miss because the ability could not pick.

If one on them shot an arrow at you, you could specifiy "the creature that shot the arrow at me". Agree or not?

-Fletch!