Arcane Archer question
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satori01 said:
Perhaps we need a feat?
Improved Enhance Arrow [General]
You have learned to replicate weapon special abilities when enhancing your arrows.
Prerequisite: Enhance Arrows +2 class ability.
Benefit: When you take this feat, select 3 weapon special abilities that can be applied to arrows. When creating an enhanced arrow, you can reduce your enhancement bonus to the arrow and apply one or more of your selected special abilities, as long as the total bonus of the special abilities does not exceed amount the enhancement bonus was decreased.
Special: You may take this feat more than once. Each time you take it, you select 3 new weapon special abilities that can be applied to arrows.
i think it would work better as a custom class ability. after all who else would ever take this feat? also remember that flexability has a price, maybe work it like the metamagics- you can trade a +2 enhancment for a special +1 weapon enhancment.
mmmm a bit weak this way, needs some brainstorming.
Z
mmmm a bit weak this way, needs some brainstorming.
Z
I think the idea has real merit, Whimsical.
Does anyone in 3.5E play Arcane Archers? (aside from those that converted at existing character from 3.0). They are acknowledged as a weak PrC and this might be the perfect way to bump things up and make them attractive.
But I also agree that there would need to be a limit on the special abilities. Or maybe that at least half of the total bonus needs to be used as an enhancement bonus?
But maybe the thread should now be moved to the House Rules section?
Does anyone in 3.5E play Arcane Archers? (aside from those that converted at existing character from 3.0). They are acknowledged as a weak PrC and this might be the perfect way to bump things up and make them attractive.
But I also agree that there would need to be a limit on the special abilities. Or maybe that at least half of the total bonus needs to be used as an enhancement bonus?
But maybe the thread should now be moved to the House Rules section?
hazardjsimpson
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Sort of an arcane archer...
I have a character that's level 17 now and was originally going for the Arcane Archer PrC, but as I got closer to it, I realized what a waste it was. I wish I'd realized it before I took the prereq. level of Wizard and a level of AA.
The Improve Enhance Arrow option would sure help it, and if I'd had that available I might have taken more than a level of AA before ditching it for Order of the Bow Initiate and levls of Fighter. For a serious bow-wielder, the AA is not an option. If you want to play something of a truly Elven heritage feel , the Arcane Archer can be fun, and following the whole tree to get Hail of Arrows is keen. But, for a damage and combat based archer, it's wasted, and I qualify for Storm of Arrows (epic feat) when I hit the level, so the AA becomes even less attractive.
What would make it more attractive is for one, not having to take a level of Wizard as a pre-req. That sucks. The only thing that is good for is if you have a multiclass wizard/something else going for AA, because 1 level of it sucks.
The damage enhancements are nice, and it could even be addressed by allowing the AA to pick one damage type instead of the stacked bonus at every level of Enhance Arrow past say +2. IIRC it tops at +5, so you could have arrow of +5 or a +2 arrow + fire + frost + shock, for example. Additionally, the nice thing about the Enhance Arrow ability comes when you are down to using 'random bow x' . With a few levels of AA, you can shoot a stick from a string and still get a magic bonus,
. I've compensated with a highly magic bow, and as a skirmisher the damage output is disgusting.
I really like the idea of exchanging the +magic for a +type instead. I'll toss the idea to my group if you don't mind and see what they think too.
I have a character that's level 17 now and was originally going for the Arcane Archer PrC, but as I got closer to it, I realized what a waste it was. I wish I'd realized it before I took the prereq. level of Wizard and a level of AA.
The Improve Enhance Arrow option would sure help it, and if I'd had that available I might have taken more than a level of AA before ditching it for Order of the Bow Initiate and levls of Fighter. For a serious bow-wielder, the AA is not an option. If you want to play something of a truly Elven heritage feel , the Arcane Archer can be fun, and following the whole tree to get Hail of Arrows is keen. But, for a damage and combat based archer, it's wasted, and I qualify for Storm of Arrows (epic feat) when I hit the level, so the AA becomes even less attractive.
What would make it more attractive is for one, not having to take a level of Wizard as a pre-req. That sucks. The only thing that is good for is if you have a multiclass wizard/something else going for AA, because 1 level of it sucks.
The damage enhancements are nice, and it could even be addressed by allowing the AA to pick one damage type instead of the stacked bonus at every level of Enhance Arrow past say +2. IIRC it tops at +5, so you could have arrow of +5 or a +2 arrow + fire + frost + shock, for example. Additionally, the nice thing about the Enhance Arrow ability comes when you are down to using 'random bow x' . With a few levels of AA, you can shoot a stick from a string and still get a magic bonus,
. I've compensated with a highly magic bow, and as a skirmisher the damage output is disgusting. I really like the idea of exchanging the +magic for a +type instead. I'll toss the idea to my group if you don't mind and see what they think too.
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