Are Avalanche Press products good?
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jaerdaph
#UkraineStrong
It has never ceased to amaze me how male roleplayers can go on ad infinitum about realism in their games right down to the exact amount of damage obtained from some obscure weapon that only three archaeologists have ever heard of, but never seem to have a problem with the entirely unrealistic concept of string bikini chainmail. 
Teflon Billy
Explorer
jaerdaph said:It has never ceased to amaze me how male roleplayers can go on ad infinitum about realism in their games right down to the exact amount of damage obtained from some obscure weapon that only three archaeologists have ever heard of, but never seem to have a problem with the entirely unrealistic concept of string bikini chainmail.
{shrill}I'm incensed! How dare you imply that all male gamers are the same? We're not just collections of biological switches, we have thoughts and feelings! This is sexism!
Plus that statement is categorically untrue, as I have met a person who didn't fit that archetype at all!
I demand that this thread be closed, and Jaerdaph booted from the boards! {/shrill}
coyote6
Adventurer
I've got a couple of their books, but I haven't been that impressed. They're okay -- there are some decent ideas & info in 'em -- but I think GURPS historicals are better, and the d20 rules material is, well, kind of eh.
(And the rant in the book on steeds, about riding dogs being so unrealistic -- the rant that comes just before the pages on flying horses -- makes me laugh and shake my head at the same time.)
OTOH, the FLGS had some Avalanche books on sale; next time I go in, I might just pick one up, if they're still there. Give 'em another try.
(And the rant in the book on steeds, about riding dogs being so unrealistic -- the rant that comes just before the pages on flying horses -- makes me laugh and shake my head at the same time.)
OTOH, the FLGS had some Avalanche books on sale; next time I go in, I might just pick one up, if they're still there. Give 'em another try.
Teflon Billy
Explorer
Ahh, the rallying cry of the politcally correct. I was wondering when it would appear
Congrats Kenji
I'll answer this the way I always need to answer it:
Re: "Anything I don't agree with"
There is no shortage of stuff in the world with which I don't agree... most of it does not stoop to hiding behind the skirts of political correctness insead of arguing points.
Re: "any statement I don't have a coherent argument against"
Here is what I thought was the failry obvious argument.
What I don't "agree" with in this particular subject has much to do with that age old proverb about Judging a Book by it's Cover. In much the same way I would not judge a person by the color of their skin, judge a personality by a person's weight or judge a car by it's paint job, I wouldn't judge a game supplement solely by it's cover.
Following that basic concept, I bristle at vapid, prudish self-censorship alomg the lines of "I won't even consider looking at that product becasue of the cover".
That is what I was referring to when I said....
Need any further clarifications? Or are you planning on trotting out another bumper sticker slogan?
Congrats Kenji
I'll answer this the way I always need to answer it:
Re: "Anything I don't agree with"
There is no shortage of stuff in the world with which I don't agree... most of it does not stoop to hiding behind the skirts of political correctness insead of arguing points.
Re: "any statement I don't have a coherent argument against"
Here is what I thought was the failry obvious argument.
What I don't "agree" with in this particular subject has much to do with that age old proverb about Judging a Book by it's Cover. In much the same way I would not judge a person by the color of their skin, judge a personality by a person's weight or judge a car by it's paint job, I wouldn't judge a game supplement solely by it's cover.
Following that basic concept, I bristle at vapid, prudish self-censorship alomg the lines of "I won't even consider looking at that product becasue of the cover".
That is what I was referring to when I said....
Need any further clarifications? Or are you planning on trotting out another bumper sticker slogan?
Teflon Billy
Explorer
coyote6 said:
If the topics have any use for you, pay special attention to Blood Prince of Wallachia and Black Flags.
They both really shine.
Alaric_Prympax
First Post
Put me on the side of the pictures don't bother me and I find their products to be good but not great. As it has been stated before (and thus repeated by me ) their products cover areas that other publishers have not so I do find them useful.
Though The Last Days of Constantinople wasn't the best module written, as someone who likes Roman and Byzantine history, I enjoyed it quite a bit.
) their products cover areas that other publishers have not so I do find them useful. Though The Last Days of Constantinople wasn't the best module written, as someone who likes Roman and Byzantine history, I enjoyed it quite a bit.
Ycore Rixle
First Post
My group played through "The Last Days of Constantinople" and absolutely loved it. In fact, in our 4+ year campaign, that adventure/mission is probably one of the top five most loved and best remembered. The halfling rogue still runs around saying, "For the Pope!" once in a while. One caveat: the d20 statistics are horrid; plan on using this one (if you use it) as you would use a module from another game system, that is, just for plot, maps, background, characters, etc. - not for statistics.
Unfortunately, I have found the subsequent AP titles much less useful, mainly because the ones I have looked at emphasize source material to the exclusion of adventure material.
And I love the covers.
Unfortunately, I have found the subsequent AP titles much less useful, mainly because the ones I have looked at emphasize source material to the exclusion of adventure material.
And I love the covers.
