Incenjucar
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At present, it's mostly a United States thing.
Europeans seem to be staying home longer these days, without it being a huge issue.
Europeans seem to be staying home longer these days, without it being a huge issue.
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Are gamers really that pathetic?
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fanboy2000
Adventurer
Lets compair this statement:
With this one:
I hate to say it Nisarg, but you are right: You are not implying that we should exclude gamers who's personal habits you dissagree with outright.
Indeed. I've dicided that you are right about everything. Feel free to put that in your sig.
Nisarg said:
With this one:
I hate to say it Nisarg, but you are right: You are not implying that we should exclude gamers who's personal habits you dissagree with outright.
Indeed. I've dicided that you are right about everything. Feel free to put that in your sig.
Thornir Alekeg
Albatross!
Nisarg said:
Wow...the gaming community has had people that have these issues, well I would say for about 30 years now. I didn't realize that the threat of the community degenerating become so extreme. Oh, what shall we do? I know, let's have WotC include a bar of soap, basic hygiene guidelines and social standards in a boxed set with an abridged set of rules. To get the complete rules you must pass a test that shows you can follow the included guidelines.
OK I'm starting to get a little too snarky here. I think I'll join Jester47 and give up on this thread. I should know better than to respond to any of Nisarg's postings.
Stone Angel
First Post
Aaron you have defended your points nobily.
But I mean this is a hobby. Just a hobby. Well I smell today, had a hard day at work, whats that mom, I can't play my guitar untill I've showered. But Mom.
Now that I have my little joke. Seriously. There were some people there that I would choose not to go to a club with. Yes. I mean who wants someone at a club that won't reply to what you say. Sits there and looks depressed, and otherwise drains the life out of a 10' radius in the bar. I mean I go there to have fun. Does that mean I would not play D&D with. Of course I would. Gaming is social just different social. There(at the club) I would have nothing in common with them. At the gaming table is there something that we have in common. I played sports in highschool and college, I was in drama, band, chorus, BPA, I was in who's who of highschool students, I got good grades. I coming from this background am well adjusted in just about any situation. I have learned to tolerate any person even if they are not. And where I come from toleration is not accepted. Stinky maybe they ran out of deoderant, whatever. If you were at my house and I thought you smelled I would tolerate it. Twice I would ask you to shower, but would I ban you from coming over. No
The original question is "Are gamers that pathetic" all over a girl, c'mon I mean we have the internet, most of us have probably seen things these girls have never even heard of. I just don't like the verbage thats all. Am I a dork yeah. Pathetic hardly. Like at Gen Con a football camp was going on. One of the big guys screamed "Dork, Fag" at a guy that was a little goth. I was like say that again and you will have to tell everyone that you got your ass stomped by a "Dork, Fag".
The Seraph of Earth and Stone
But I mean this is a hobby. Just a hobby. Well I smell today, had a hard day at work, whats that mom, I can't play my guitar untill I've showered. But Mom.
Now that I have my little joke. Seriously. There were some people there that I would choose not to go to a club with. Yes. I mean who wants someone at a club that won't reply to what you say. Sits there and looks depressed, and otherwise drains the life out of a 10' radius in the bar. I mean I go there to have fun. Does that mean I would not play D&D with. Of course I would. Gaming is social just different social. There(at the club) I would have nothing in common with them. At the gaming table is there something that we have in common. I played sports in highschool and college, I was in drama, band, chorus, BPA, I was in who's who of highschool students, I got good grades. I coming from this background am well adjusted in just about any situation. I have learned to tolerate any person even if they are not. And where I come from toleration is not accepted. Stinky maybe they ran out of deoderant, whatever. If you were at my house and I thought you smelled I would tolerate it. Twice I would ask you to shower, but would I ban you from coming over. No
The original question is "Are gamers that pathetic" all over a girl, c'mon I mean we have the internet, most of us have probably seen things these girls have never even heard of. I just don't like the verbage thats all. Am I a dork yeah. Pathetic hardly. Like at Gen Con a football camp was going on. One of the big guys screamed "Dork, Fag" at a guy that was a little goth. I was like say that again and you will have to tell everyone that you got your ass stomped by a "Dork, Fag".
The Seraph of Earth and Stone
Terwox
First Post
guess I'm here late, but hey.
most of the people I've gamed with have been relatively poor in the social department.
a lot of stinky people, a lot of jerks, a few braindead stoners, and a majority of people with some heavy emotional disturbance.
I've always sort of seen that as the norm -- you game because something is wrong, basically... you enjoy the hobby because something is lacking.
It's just how I always felt about it -- I've also known the people who started dated and quit gaming -- pretty common thing too.
But I've made some great friends. Sure, there's people in my past who smelled like piss and had lifestyles that make me retch, and I wish I'd of avoided some of them outright, but it went how it went. I miss gaming, I just moved away, and the first thing I feel like I need is a gaming group -- not for an escapist movement, but just because it would be nice to have some friends who I shared a common interest with!
Man... some of my favorite people are past 25 year old guys who live alone and have never had a date. They don't smell, they're perhaps a bit maladjusted, but damnit they're good people and they're my friends!
Well, all rambling aside -- just game with your friends. I'm attracted to somewhat weird people, that's just the way of things, and sometimes it turns out funny, and sometimes you make good friends. If you don't want to deal with catpiss men, by all means, kick them out of your house, stop talking to them. I've had some stinky friends, though, and it all turned out great. A lot of people who are stinky are stinky because they don't have much choice... poverty and all that, simple unawareness, whatever.
Anyway, stick to your friends. Not writing off the weird guy will mean you won't meet any of the true freaky people you want to stay away from -- and for those who have gamers around their kids, no questions asked just don't even consider freaky people IMHO -- but you'll miss some really great people... who just have some problems... maybe just bigger problems than the rest of us.
but i'm a psychology goon. if you've got less tolerance for freakiness, by all means you aren't bad or evil, just accept it and tell catpissers to stop eating out of the litterbox. have fun gaming, everyone.
most of the people I've gamed with have been relatively poor in the social department.
a lot of stinky people, a lot of jerks, a few braindead stoners, and a majority of people with some heavy emotional disturbance.
I've always sort of seen that as the norm -- you game because something is wrong, basically... you enjoy the hobby because something is lacking.
It's just how I always felt about it -- I've also known the people who started dated and quit gaming -- pretty common thing too.
But I've made some great friends. Sure, there's people in my past who smelled like piss and had lifestyles that make me retch, and I wish I'd of avoided some of them outright, but it went how it went. I miss gaming, I just moved away, and the first thing I feel like I need is a gaming group -- not for an escapist movement, but just because it would be nice to have some friends who I shared a common interest with!
Man... some of my favorite people are past 25 year old guys who live alone and have never had a date. They don't smell, they're perhaps a bit maladjusted, but damnit they're good people and they're my friends!
Well, all rambling aside -- just game with your friends. I'm attracted to somewhat weird people, that's just the way of things, and sometimes it turns out funny, and sometimes you make good friends. If you don't want to deal with catpiss men, by all means, kick them out of your house, stop talking to them. I've had some stinky friends, though, and it all turned out great. A lot of people who are stinky are stinky because they don't have much choice... poverty and all that, simple unawareness, whatever.
Anyway, stick to your friends. Not writing off the weird guy will mean you won't meet any of the true freaky people you want to stay away from -- and for those who have gamers around their kids, no questions asked just don't even consider freaky people IMHO -- but you'll miss some really great people... who just have some problems... maybe just bigger problems than the rest of us.
but i'm a psychology goon. if you've got less tolerance for freakiness, by all means you aren't bad or evil, just accept it and tell catpissers to stop eating out of the litterbox. have fun gaming, everyone.
jester47
First Post
Alright, Stone Angel dragged me back into this thread-
While I talk a stern game, its very much a case by case situation in reality. I find 95% of gamers ok. 60% I would classify as normal (only very minor eccentricities and good hygene habits) 35% I would say have a major eccentricity or some social trait that may get annoying occasionally. But its ok cause in reality everyone, everywhere is really crazy. Its just a matter of how. The last 5% are those that are eccentric to a debilitating level where it affects their ability to interact and take care of themselves.
I don't believe in instant ostracism. I make it a point to give everyone three conscious chances. That is after I say 3 times, ok, lets give him/her a chance. Its over. 1st time I let it go. 2nd, and 3rd time I point it out. As long as your redeeming traits outweigh your non-redeeming ones, you are good in my book. When I start tolerating (read that as "not approving of but dealing with your presence") you, you are in trouble.
There is a big difference between tolerance and acceptance. Tolerance is not acceptance. Tolerance implies that somthing is tolerated. It implies that you think the other party is in error.
And there is a big difference between comraderie and friendship. Comraderie is not friendship. Comraderie is any situation where you, because of common interest or circumstance, associate with people you would not associate with otherwise. Frindship means (in my mind) that you like being around that person regardless of circumstance or interest.
I made a lot of friends last weekend at GenCon from people who before I simply considered comrades. I think people in general (and some gamers) need to learn these distinctions better.
Aaron
While I talk a stern game, its very much a case by case situation in reality. I find 95% of gamers ok. 60% I would classify as normal (only very minor eccentricities and good hygene habits) 35% I would say have a major eccentricity or some social trait that may get annoying occasionally. But its ok cause in reality everyone, everywhere is really crazy. Its just a matter of how. The last 5% are those that are eccentric to a debilitating level where it affects their ability to interact and take care of themselves.
I don't believe in instant ostracism. I make it a point to give everyone three conscious chances. That is after I say 3 times, ok, lets give him/her a chance. Its over. 1st time I let it go. 2nd, and 3rd time I point it out. As long as your redeeming traits outweigh your non-redeeming ones, you are good in my book. When I start tolerating (read that as "not approving of but dealing with your presence") you, you are in trouble.
There is a big difference between tolerance and acceptance. Tolerance is not acceptance. Tolerance implies that somthing is tolerated. It implies that you think the other party is in error.
And there is a big difference between comraderie and friendship. Comraderie is not friendship. Comraderie is any situation where you, because of common interest or circumstance, associate with people you would not associate with otherwise. Frindship means (in my mind) that you like being around that person regardless of circumstance or interest.
I made a lot of friends last weekend at GenCon from people who before I simply considered comrades. I think people in general (and some gamers) need to learn these distinctions better.
Aaron
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