Are OGL publishers still 3pps? (a forked thread)

[Umbran]

How would you apply this to the Pathfinder RPG or to True 20. Are those 3pp games, in your opinion, or 1pp games?

I haven't read the True 20 rules, so I cannot speak to them.

I haven't read Pathfinder, either, but everyone speaks of it as "continuing support for 3e". The whole point of the game seems to be how close it is to 3e, rather than it being its own thing - that positioning makes them 3pp, to my thinking.

Over time, if more folks play Pathfinder itself, instead of 3e supported with Pathfinder materials, then perhaps I'd change that opinion.

 

[Mark]

How bout "Toga Party Publishers?"

 

[Wicht]

How bout "Toga Party Publishers?"

I am afraid this is possibly too much information. I am trying very hard not to form a mental image...

 

[Jan van Leyden]

I'm not sure I follow that sentence.

The Open Gaming License is not tied to any game system, rules set or publisher.

Mongoose has released Traveller under the Open Gaming License with their own SRD. dmccoy1693 publishes material using said SRD based on the Open Gaming license.

So he is a third party publisher to Mongosse's Traveller line. The only tie to WotC is the fact that the OGL originated in Renton.

 

[dmccoy1693]

How bout "Toga Party Publishers?"

To Ga! To Ga! To Ga!

 

[dmccoy1693]

I'm not sure I follow that sentence.

My company, Jon Brazer Enterprises, publishes material for Traveller on a 3rd party basis for Mongoose Traveller. We use the OGL in the same fashion that Paizo uses the OGL to publish their Pathfinder Adventure Paths. But Paizo is currently a 3.5 3pp while my company is a Traveller 3pp.

So changing the term to OGL publisher would provide no distinction between Paizo and JBE as we are both OGL publishers. Infact it would remove a layer of distinction.

Example: When Paizo releases Pathfinder RPG later this year, they will no longer be a 3pp. They will be a principle publisher. But their rules are OGL and their rules book will have an OGL in the back. So they will still be an OGL publisher, but not a 3pp.

Then there is case of companies like Chaosium. Chaosium publishes the BRP, a non OGL game. But they license the BRP to other companies. Those companies are third party publishers of Chaosium. But they do not use the OGL.

OGL publisher =/= Third Party Publisher. Sometimes they happen to be the same thing, but that is not necessarily always the case.

 

[El Mahdi]

How bout "Toga Party Publishers?"

I am afraid this is possibly too much information. I am trying very hard not to form a mental image...

Yup. That's a little too much "Open Fantasy" for me!