D&D 5E (2024) Are you going to buy the new 2024 D&D Core Books

[Aldarc]

Splitting some hairs, IMO.

Choosing to read something negative that wasn't in Charlaquin's original statement and making the thread needlessly hostile as a result, IMO.

I'm excited about the new books, at this point, I'm 100% sure I'm picking them up. My decision isn't dumb, it's just that my feelings are different from yours. You are not so convinced these are an automatic buy. I don't think your feelings are dumb, they just aren't in alignment with mine.

I am not buying the books either, but I'm also not choosing to take Charlaquin's original post personally nor do I believe that they were calling me or anyone "dumb." Making that conclusion is a bridge far too far IMO.

To be clear, I think that the accusation made against Charlaquin that they are calling anyone dumb is so outrageously out of character for an incredibly mild-mannered poster.

 

[TheSword]

By making 2024 5E "fully compatible" with 2014 5E WotC has undermined its necessity. That means the books will have to add value above and beyond the usual "new edition" built in value of being able to play the current game. I think this means that they will be more directly competing with other 5E-alikes (TotV, A5E, etc). They have told their customers they don't need these books, which is a weird position to take for a new ruleset (as opposed to the 2E black border reissue).

I don’t ‘need’ lots of things, but nevertheless I want want want.

The corollary of an eternal edition is that everything becomes optional.

 

[jerryrice4949]

I've just been browsing this forum and apparently there were some things I missed that are pushing me further to the "no" camp. They've gone back to class spell lists and they've brought back pact magic, both things which I feel aren't a great design choice. Looks like any chance of me switching back to yes is becoming slimmer and slimmer.

I agree though it will likely check out the books my enthusiasm is way down. I really want Pact Magic and short rest related powers gone.

 

[SteveC]

By making 2024 5E "fully compatible" with 2014 5E WotC has undermined its necessity. That means the books will have to add value above and beyond the usual "new edition" built in value of being able to play the current game. I think this means that they will be more directly competing with other 5E-alikes (TotV, A5E, etc). They have told their customers they don't need these books, which is a weird position to take for a new ruleset (as opposed to the 2E black border reissue).

This is a really good point. I believed that WotC would make significant changes just to make the books essential. I know they have been saying "no, it will be compatible!" but I didn't see the sense of that because ... where is the value?

I know there will be a buzz when the new books come out and people will buy them just to have the new shiny. But otherwise, I suspect it will just be "I'm going to play D&D, okay let's get the PHB..." and they'll get the new one. That is not going to significantly change how many books are sold, outside of the initial "50th anniversary!" purchases.

And if you can use any adventures with games like Level Up or Tales of the Valiant, that gives people who've moved on even less reason to get the new books.

 

[Remathilis]

I agree though it will likely check out the books my enthusiasm is way down. I really want Pact Magic and short rest related powers gone.

Ditto. As the changes have moved from "major update" to "Tasha's and errata" my enthusiasm has dropped. I'm still happy we'll get some updates, but it's gone from "can't wait" to "it will get here when it gets here".

 

[Dausuul]

Out of the options given, I picked "yes" because it's closest to where I am, but that choice is not set in stone.

I will buy the books unless the design takes a wild screeching turn from where it currently seems to be headed, or WotC does something like try to kill the OGL again. Of the changes in the playtest, there have been many that I liked and a few that I didn't, and most of the ones I didn't like are being walked back; they are not killing pact magic, they are going back to class spell lists, etc. I wish they had iterated a bit more on wild shape templates before scrapping them, but the latest version of wild shape is still an improvement on the old.

The new books aren't going to be my perfect ideal of D&D, but that was never on the table. If the current trends hold, they should be a significant incremental improvement (for me at least) on the 2014 edition, and that's enough for me to lay out for them.

 

[Dausuul]

Splitting some hairs, IMO.

I'm excited about the new books, at this point, I'm 100% sure I'm picking them up. My decision isn't dumb, it's just that my feelings are different from yours. You are not so convinced these are an automatic buy. I don't think your feelings are dumb, they just aren't in alignment with mine.

@Charlaquin said this was "jumping the gun," not that it was "dumb." It was @Umbran who asserted, incorrectly, that Charlaquin was calling you dumb.

You may disagree that it's jumping the gun, but maybe we could stick to what was actually said?

 

[Ringtail]

Definitely a "No" for me. I moved to Pathfinder and I'm pretty happy with that, nor am I the biggest fan of the playtest material.

That being said as a fan of all things D&D and D&D adjacent, I'll probably acquire them eventually. But in 2024? Not likely. Maybe a year or two after that, when the system has had time to breathe (and maybe I can find a used copy on ebay or something.) Its not likely to be my main game in any case.

 

[Scott Christian]

I'm getting them because I love to read fantasy rulebooks! The descriptions, the art, the layouts, and organization are all fascinating to me. Not to mention the interplay between each the sections and the thought of reading as a player vs a DM.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

By making 2024 5E "fully compatible" with 2014 5E WotC has undermined its necessity. That means the books will have to add value above and beyond the usual "new edition" built in value of being able to play the current game. I think this means that they will be more directly competing with other 5E-alikes (TotV, A5E, etc). They have told their customers they don't need these books, which is a weird position to take for a new ruleset (as opposed to the 2E black border reissue).

None of us needed Tashas either. Since this isn’t a new edition, it makes sense they aren’t presenting it as one.

Instead, the old phb will go out of print, new phb sales will be the 2024 phb, and the game will move on.