Aren't the prerequisites for Whirlwind Attack kinda.... odd?

[Lord Pendragon]

Allies ready moves (limited charge)

There is no "limited charge" in 3.5 unless you've been Slowed, Staggered, or you're a zombie...

 

[FreeTheSlaves]

There is no "limited charge" in 3.5 unless you've been Slowed, Staggered, or you're a zombie...

Is that so?? Well, there are a few gems ingrained from 3.0 that I don't mind keeping - does change that tactic a bit.

 

[blargney the second]

Ditto to what satori01 said!

The trick with WWA is that the feats required to get it enable you to use it offensively: take the fight to your enemy! It's a two-round combo: 1) Spring Attack while getting into position, 2) WWA. Spring Attack negates one AoO, Mobility + Dodge + Combat Expertise = +9 or 10 AC vs all the others!

Incidentally, the Warshaper's natural reach at third level works very well with this.
-blarg

 

[freebfrost]

OK, I'll bite: what is the ultimate ability?

Decapitating Blow from the Conan RPG.

 

[Lord Pendragon]

Is that so??

Yep. Basically, the only time you can do what was in 3.0 a "partial charge" is when your movement is restricted. So in the following conditions I mentioned, you can partial charge, because you don't have a full suite of actions to actually charge. Otherwise, you have to charge, or you don't.

Well, there are a few gems ingrained from 3.0 that I don't mind keeping - does change that tactic a bit.

Indeed. It's my belief that the change was made precisely to prevent the tactic you mention, i.e. using a move action to alter your line of attack, then partial charging the enemy, when you wouldn't have been able to charge the enemy from your original position (due to some kind of obstruction in the straight line). Not sure how gamebreaking that was, but there you have it.

 

[Hypersmurf]

WWA gives you one attack against each creature you threaten.

A grappling creature threatens nothing, so he'd get no attacks.

Read the feat again.

It gives you one attack against each creature within reach.

You can Whirlwind Attack with a whip, against every creature within fifteen feet (though you'd provoke an AoO on every attack), even though you threaten none of them.

A grappled ogre threatens no squares... but strictly, anyone up to and including ten feet away from him is still a 'creature within reach'.

-Hyp.

 

[Corlon]

Read the feat again.

It gives you one attack against each creature within reach.

You can Whirlwind Attack with a whip, against every creature within fifteen feet (though you'd provoke an AoO on every attack), even though you threaten none of them.

A grappled ogre threatens no squares... but strictly, anyone up to and including ten feet away from him is still a 'creature within reach'.

-Hyp.

Hmm, brings up thoguhts about grappling the wizard, and then if anyone tries to pull you off, you just whirlwind them all.