Art: Bloodfury Savage: Since when do half-orcs shave their pits.

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

The Shiere Knight does not look like a Knight though . . . more like a half-naked elf chick (and she sure did not look like one of the most powerful mages in Faerun which was the original intention).

You know, I would prefer if Knights would look more like this.

 

[Nymrohd]

You know, I would prefer if Knights would look more like this.

You know, some Knights are guys. Are male Shiere Knights usually in that outfit?

 

[Bold or Stupid]

The Shiere Knight does not look like a Knight though . . . more like a half-naked elf chick (and she sure did not look like one of the most powerful mages in Faerun which was the original intention).

What just coz a girl shows some flesh she can't get any respect? Plus knight is an honorific why does it have to mean armour?

 

[pawsplay]

No defined NIPPLES, buddy. Breasts are still fair game.

Discernible breasts are rare enough on animals with nipples. In a monotreme, there is no equivalent structure. The young basically lick milk off their mothers.

The closest genetic relatives to humans are chimpanzees and gorillas. Have you ever seen ape cleavage? I'm going to assume the answer is, "No." If apes don't have them, if cats don't have them, why would something as marginally mammalian as a monotreme have them? That would be like arguing deer people should have venomous antlers because male platypi have poison spurs on their feet.

Dragonboobs do not exist specifically for pornographic reasons, or to give female players an idealized avatar, or because it added something to their backstory for them to be mammals. They have dragonboobs because the design team thought it was the way to go. They are simply the result of the psychological unease some people feel if males and females are not protrayed as essentially different. Who cares if you can tell a male dragonborn apart from a female, apart from another dragonborn? If they really wanted some kind of dimorphism, they could have chosen crests, or coloration, or size, or any of the more usual differences in the animal kingdom.

I don't object to fantastic biology. I don't object to breasts. I don't even object to breasts on creatures that are reptilian appearance. I don't have a problem with breasts on half-dragons, medusas, sorceresses, or, for that matter, weird outsiders that look kind of like insects. I just don't understand why they would exist on creatures that are basically dragon-people. I could accept visible breasts on 3e-style dragonborn, who are members of other races that have been transformed.

Compare:

 

[ppaladin123]

Oh no! Decapodian females have breasts even though they are clearly based off of crustaceans!

 

[Umbran]

I'm wit h ProfessorCirno here. I'm not fond of games where things are there just because "magic explains".

Um, dude... a large section of the game is magic items and magic spells and magic powers. Magic underlies all of it. If you don't like "it is magic" as an explanation, you are gong to be spending a whole lot of time coming up with "no prize" explanations for the various violations of real-world physics, geology, and biology.

My point being - this is as easy to come up with some form of explanation for as just about any other of the myriad violations of real-world natural laws and patterns. It really, really isn't difficult.

You don't want to, that's your choice. But perhaps we should stop painting that as some sort of a failure on the part of the game, the designers, or the like. They have every reason to believe that we'll accept weak to no explanation, because we accept it for pretty much everything else.

 

[chaotix42]

I only date stacked dragonborn.

 

[Simm]

It is interesting to note that Dragonborn are in fact mammals. The claim that they are born from eggs is a mistranslation of certain Draconic texts and actually refers to certain ceremonies performed during a Dragonborn’s early childhood. They are most closely related to the order Pholidota, and share the group’s acids generation abilities and keratin based scales.

see here: Pangolin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And you thought D&D creatures were weird?

Also, note, used in chinese medicine to promote production of breast milk

 

[pawsplay]

Um, dude... a large section of the game is magic items and magic spells and magic powers. Magic underlies all of it. If you don't like "it is magic" as an explanation, you are gong to be spending a whole lot of time coming up with "no prize" explanations for the various violations of real-world physics, geology, and biology.

That is different than violating a real-world aesthetic. I find dragonboons offensive not because they are impossible but because they are senseless. Why would they exist? Magic makes them possible, but not likely.

 

[Merlin's Shadow]

Wouldn't this "problem" just go away if individual DMs decided on their own within their campaign whether or not female Dragonborn had breasts? I mean, I know it sounds too simple to work and I'm kinda defeating the whole point of teh Intarwebs with the thought; but I guess I just thought I would throw that out there.