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5E Artist Mike Schley running a sale on all digital artwork (including adventure maps)

Louis Brenton

Explorer
Mike Schley is (in my mind) the best D&D cartographer in the universe. He's contributed to 5E materials such as Lost Mine of Phandelver, Princes of the Apocalypse, & Out of the Abyss (& countless older, pre-5E resources).

If you're the type who likes to purchase digital downloads of maps from the artists, I just got an email from Mike advertising a sale he's running until Sep. 30. 15% off using the coupon code that was removed by the Moderators.

Despite the obvious reference, this code will apply to any digital downloads from his site. The site is: http://mikeschley.zenfolio.com/

Apologies for not making a fancy link. My internet ignorance is great.

Mod Edit: Sorry, but that coupon code was not intended for general distribution. ~Umbran
 
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Tyranthraxus

Explorer
Not cool Louise. THis was supposed to be just for returning customers which is in bold in the email. Please either delete this forum post or modify your original post.

I will agree that Mike is good.. I even like his AL scenarios he has done.

I am although fairly annoyed about this utter fascination the Module Writers have with this 1 square = 10 ft ratio. I know I know, there is a size limit for their maps, but its basically makes it next to impossible to print the map to actually be usuable on the table. I keep hoping the next module dosnt make the same mistake, but there it is again.
 

MerricB

Eternal Optimist
The reasons for 1 square=10 feet is because it makes the maps a lot more readable. The #1 reason a map fails is when it uses an inappropriate scale: you've got to be able to easily count the squares. Paizo managed to royally screw up the map of Maure Castle a few years back by using a 5 foot scale (and then misprinting the grid as well!)

1 square=5 feet is fine for miniatures, but not for most larger dungeons in a printed book. If you're dealing with rooms much larger than 20 ft. square, then you should be using a 1 square = 10 feet grid, or perhaps even larger.

Cheers!
 

Lanefan

Victoria Rules
I am although fairly annoyed about this utter fascination the Module Writers have with this 1 square = 10 ft ratio. I know I know, there is a size limit for their maps, but its basically makes it next to impossible to print the map to actually be usuable on the table. I keep hoping the next module dosnt make the same mistake, but there it is again.
Er...why would you print any dungeon map for use on the table? Why not just draw the relevant bits (as in, what the PC party actually knows about) on a pre-gridded whiteboard or chalkboard or similar, and put the minis on that?

5' squares are annoying as hell as when the chambers get to being 40'x60' or 50'x90' it's far too easy to mess up the counting.

Lan-"my biggest pet peeve with pre-done battlemaps of any kind is they invariably show players parts of the area their characters haven't seen yet"-efan
 


pukunui

Hero
What's not cool is how WotC has apparently talked itself into believing it is reasonable to ask us to pay more to get maps as digital files even after having purchased the campaign book.
I don't think it's unreasonable to expect us to pay a few bucks extra to get a super high-res version of a map. The maps that WotC used to give out for free on their website were all pretty low-res files.
 

CapnZapp

Legend
I don't think it's unreasonable to expect us to pay a few bucks extra to get a super high-res version of a map. The maps that WotC used to give out for free on their website were all pretty low-res files.
You talk like an apologist, like you still get the lowres map for free. Why you do this?

While it may not be unreasonable to expect us to pay for a super high-res version of a map, it is unreasonable to expect us to pay for *a* version of a map. Especially since this hurts customers that want to stay legit ONLY.
 

pukunui

Hero
[MENTION=12731]CapnZapp[/MENTION]: I'm sorry. What? Could you maybe rephrase that? Because I have no idea what you're talking about.
 
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wedgeski

First Post
You talk like an apologist, like you still get the lowres map for free. Why you do this?
If we got the low-res maps for free, people would still be on here complaining that we don't get the high-res ones, or free scale printed laminated versions of them delivered into our hands upon release.

In this instance, WotC are choosing to support the artist over their own customers. I honestly don't know if that's the right call. I have bought maps from Mike Schley's portfolio, which is money I would have preferred not to spend, but in the end...it doesn't bother me that much.
 

Louis Brenton

Explorer
Not cool Louise. THis was supposed to be just for returning customers which is in bold in the email. Please either delete this forum post or modify your original post.

Hm. I genuinely thought I was being helpful to Mike by drawing attention to a promotion he was running. I love Mike's work & I have or will be purchasing everything he produces for D&D 5E, because I want to support him & I think excellent work should be rewarded.

I don't see anything in bold in the email except the the coupon code itself.

If I discover that I'm going against Mike's intentions or desires, I'll change or delete my original post. Again, my intention is to be helpful to him & promote his products.
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
Hm. I genuinely thought I was being helpful to Mike by drawing attention to a promotion he was running. I love Mike's work & I have or will be purchasing everything he produces for D&D 5E, because I want to support him & I think excellent work should be rewarded.

I don't see anything in bold in the email except the the coupon code itself.

If I discover that I'm going against Mike's intentions or desires, I'll change or delete my original post. Again, my intention is to be helpful to him & promote his products.


The code has been removed.

If the sender had wanted it passed around, his e-mail would have said, "Please pass this around." Really, if he wanted to offer a flat discount to everybody to drum up business, he probably would just have cut prices on all his wares for a while, and advertised a general sale.
 

DEFCON 1

Legend
Supporter
If you are buying the campaign book... you are buying what is in the campaign book. You AREN'T buying the campaign book plus a whole bunch of other stuff that the company decides to hand out (if anything.)

If WotC posted lo-res files of their maps in the past, those were given to us for free, and NOT as part of our purchase of whatever product they came from. That's why people who didn't buy the product still could download the maps.

So WotC is under not obligation or expectation to release digital copies of the maps included in the books they publish as part of the cost to buy said product. Yeah, it might piss people off because they are no longer given freebies they once were... but WotC should in no way feel guilty about that and customers who get upset about it can either get over it or just not buy the product in the first place.

And using an excuse along the lines of "Well, if they don't release these maps for free, then people are just going to go looking for them illegally" is complete B.S. You basically are saying that you WILL break the law if you have to to get what you want, but if WotC is NICE to you, then you won't. That's not exactly a moral high ground WotC should feel the need to grant. It's not THEIR job to keep you from being a dick.
 

Agamon

Adventurer
What's not cool is how WotC has apparently talked itself into believing it is reasonable to ask us to pay more to get maps as digital files even after having purchased the campaign book.

Mike is a freelancer. WotC is not asking for anything. They are being cool about leaving the rights for distribution if the maps with the artist, though. I don't know for sure, of course, but I'd imagine Mike gets paid less per piece to retain these rights, and who can blame him for selling the maps digitally, rather than just giving them away for free.
 


jayoungr

Legend
Supporter
Er...why would you print any dungeon map for use on the table? Why not just draw the relevant bits (as in, what the PC party actually knows about) on a pre-gridded whiteboard or chalkboard or similar, and put the minis on that?
You absolutely can do that, of course. But the artwork of the maps is evocative and cool, so I can see why people like to print the maps when they can. I usually run D&D over Roll20, and when I manage to get together face to face with my group, I admit that I miss the beautiful maps just a little.
 

Flexor the Mighty!

18/100 Strength!
I print maps to mark them up and put notes and all that stuff. Would be best if they would put up non artsy maps, old school black and white, but at least if I have a download I can print it out and have it ready to go without having to constantly flip back and forth.
 


Agamon

Adventurer
You absolutely can do that, of course. But the artwork of the maps is evocative and cool, so I can see why people like to print the maps when they can. I usually run D&D over Roll20, and when I manage to get together face to face with my group, I admit that I miss the beautiful maps just a little.

I've printed and laminated world/overland maps, and they cost in the $15-20 range. I can't imagine spending that for a few encounters. But I agree, it is a bonus to playing online.
 

joshinminn

Explorer
Mike is a freelancer. WotC is not asking for anything. They are being cool about leaving the rights for distribution if the maps with the artist, though. I don't know for sure, of course, but I'd imagine Mike gets paid less per piece to retain these rights, and who can blame him for selling the maps digitally, rather than just giving them away for free.
I've never understood why people assume that freelancers are raking in the dough. Also, the pervasive sense of entitlement for free digital content is tiresome.
 

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