BAB over 20?s

[Shard O'Glase]

What happens if you get a BAB over 20. I don't have ELH, I've onyl read a bit form my friends copy so I don't know but I assume it covers this.

For example elts say you wave a wizard/DoFprestige classthat improves spelcasting and gioves +7 bab 10/10. so you cast spells a s awizard 20, and yet have a BAB of 12. You cast tensers transformation and end up with a 22 BAB.

Do you get 5 attacks, is your BAB mystically limted to 20 what?

I just shudder to think waht could happen if a DM considered the +1 BAB per two levels part of tensers a variable numeric for the purpose of empower like the +1 in magic missile is. especially with that metamgic is cheaper now feat. I cast tripple empowered tensers transformation and I get a +25 to my bab, +20 str and +175 hp.

 

[the Jester]

You're always limited to four attacks by BAB, according to the ELH.

But you can always haste yourself or whatever before casting Tenser's transformation for extra oomph...

 

[Kraedin]

Your BAB isn't limited to <= 20, but your number of normal attacks cannot excede 4.

Any DM that considers a +1 per 2 levels to be a variable, numeric effect is an idiot (at least for working with Empower), so I don't see that being a huge problem.

 

[Bastoche]

Precision:

You are limited to the number of attacks you had at 20th level. Not 4.

If you're a wizard, at 20th level, you have 2 attacks. You'll always have 2 attacks no matter how high your BAB is.

Rogue has 3 at 20th, so 3 it is, forever.

After the 20th level, your BAB raise by +1 at every two level. And you never gain new attacks afterwards.

 

[Kraedin]

Whoops. Bastoche is right, except that at 21+ your epic attack bonus increases, not your BAB.

 

[Bastoche]

You're right. My mistake.

 

[Shard O'Glase]

so does that mean a wiz 20 casting tensers and gaining a 20 bab has 2 or 4 attacks throguh bab. Basically does the spell circumvent this waht you have at level 20 cap.

 

[reiella]

The increased BAB would result in more iterative attacks (the restrictions on Base Attack Progression are only for level advancement in epic levels).

However, unlike Mister Solar "I get 5 attacks nyah nyah", you end up capped at 4 attacks (using the guidelines in the ELH anyway).

Out of curiosity, exactly why is the Solar given exception to the 4 Attack/Rnd limit? Besides being a Solar.

 

[Caliban]

The increased BAB would result in more iterative attacks (the restrictions on Base Attack Progression are only for level advancement in epic levels).

However, unlike Mister Solar "I get 5 attacks nyah nyah", you end up capped at 4 attacks (using the guidelines in the ELH anyway).

Out of curiosity, exactly why is the Solar given exception to the 4 Attack/Rnd limit? Besides being a Solar.

Because the MM was published long before the ELH.

 

[Bob5th]

I believe that D&DG (Might be ELH) says that BAB derived from monster HD is all BAB and not EAB. That is a 30 HD outsider has a BAB of 30 and not a BAB of 20 with a EAB of 5. However even with a BAB of 30 you cannot have more than 4 attacks(5 for monk).