Balance problems with Complete Warrior base classes?

[I'm A Banana]

namely that classes need to have flavor or represent something specific.

So what, exactly, do they do that feats and PrC's don't? What is the *point* of a base class? From what I know "your character's class is his or her profession or vocation".....every example in the PHB represents a fantasy archetype by using rules to support that archetype.

So how does the Samurai fit in....sure, it is an archetype, a noble warrior....only paladins and fighters can already fit that archetype....so how does it mechanically support being a noble warrior? With non-Dexy TWF and Intimidation....and since when was non-Dexy TWF and Intimidation the defining traits of a noble warrior?

A noble warrior is already supported by the classes that exist, and the Samurai brings no new "noble warrior exclusive" abilities into the mix....it's superfluous. It's not really HURTING anything by being there, but there's no REASON for it to be there, either. Noble warrior can be done without the Samurai class, and the Samurai class abilities exist entirely independant of the Noble Warrior archetype.

 

[pawsplay]

Going from Swashbuckler to Duelist at the earliest point of entry works out very nice.

 

[satori01]

Don't learn do you? Go back to the earlier thread and read why all your points are based on a dumb assumption, namely that classes need to have flavor or represent something specific.

Sigh...talk about kicking an undead were-donkey to death...Sigh

Was this snipe truly necessary? This is why the treasure chest all alone in a room as a trap trigger always works, some people just cant control the omnipresent A-h*le inside

When Hong returns prepare for Defcon 1.

 

[hong]

Sigh...talk about kicking an undead were-donkey to death...Sigh

Was this snipe truly necessary? This is why the treasure chest all alone in a room as a trap trigger always works, some people just cant control the omnipresent A-h*le inside

When Hong returns prepare for Defcon 1.

I'm feeling all mellow ATM on occasion of it being Steve Waugh's retirement day. So I'll content myself with this response to jasamthing's even-more-meaningless-than-usual babble:

 

[shilsen]

I'm feeling all mellow ATM on occasion of it being Steve Waugh's retirement day.

Heh! Maybe you should do a poll to see exactly how many people on these boards have even heard of him.

To keep this post barely, on-topic: what PrC would you give him? Definitely not Swashbuckler or Samurai, though some English fans might accuse him of being a Hexblade. I vote for Devoted Defender. Warmaster is too easy. (Get it? Warmaster = Waughmaster? Oh, sometimes I just slay myself ).