D&D General Baldurs Gate Grand Dukes Post DiA/BG3

[touc]

Twist: When I ran a "Kingmaker" campaign (Pathfinder, Celtic pantheon), our setting had the following rules/mores regarding death:

If you die and are resurrected, you are treated as if you died. All your titles, inheritance, land, etc. go to your heirs. This was enforced by the god of the dead's priesthood, which preferred to give its blessing for anyone to be raised in the first place, sometimes sending avatars of death to attack those who sought to raise the dead without a blessing. You could try and hide it, but blessed or unblessed, the priests knew and spread the word.

If using this twist, this might provide a layer of intrigue if there were "raise dead" contingencies in play, regardless of the "god of the dead" in the Realms. Would the resurrected Grand Dukes be content to fade into the background, or would they try and influence their successors?

 

[Zardnaar]

Ok if it’s just two spots that’s easier. You should discount Flaming Fist Commander cause Ravenguard is that already. Portyr is the former Grand Duke but he’s pretty weak willed.

I replaced Portyr with his Niece

 

[Paul Farquhar]

If he survived Duke Ravengard would have taken command of the city in the immediate aftermath of the crisis. Probably no elections for a while. Depending on choices, possibly Wyll might be Grand Duke. Following a crisis like that BG might not revert to its previous system of government. It never struck me as particularly stable. Anyone decisively giving orders could find themselves dictator. BG has similarities to the Roman Republic.

Another possible scenario would be an attempt from Waterdeep to annex BG.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

If he survived Duke Ravengard would have taken command of the city in the immediate aftermath of the crisis. Probably no elections for a while. Depending on choices, possibly Wyll might be Grand Duke. Following a crisis like that BG might not revert to its previous system of government. It never struck me as particularly stable. Anyone decisively giving orders could find themselves dictator. BG has similarities to the Roman Republic.

Another possible scenario would be an attempt from Waterdeep to annex BG.

I don't think Waterdeep is capable of or would want to annex BG.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

I don't think Waterdeep is capable of or would want to annex BG.

After a major crisis? Send troops to “help” then it’s hard to get them to go home. Waterdeep has a number of factions, I’m sure there is at least one that can see the advantages in controlling the city’s biggest competitor.

 

[MarkB]

Twist: When I ran a "Kingmaker" campaign (Pathfinder, Celtic pantheon), our setting had the following rules/mores regarding death:

If you die and are resurrected, you are treated as if you died. All your titles, inheritance, land, etc. go to your heirs. This was enforced by the god of the dead's priesthood, which preferred to give its blessing for anyone to be raised in the first place, sometimes sending avatars of death to attack those who sought to raise the dead without a blessing. You could try and hide it, but blessed or unblessed, the priests knew and spread the word.

If using this twist, this might provide a layer of intrigue if there were "raise dead" contingencies in play, regardless of the "god of the dead" in the Realms. Would the resurrected Grand Dukes be content to fade into the background, or would they try and influence their successors?

Which makes me wonder what probate looks like in a high-level campaign with resurrection. Do you need to write a clause into your will in order for your assets to be used to commission a resurrection? Is there a time limit (other than that of the spells) beyond which the rest of the will gets executed? Can a wizard bequeath their worldly goods to their clone?

 

[Paul Farquhar]

It’s a plot point in the first Solasta game that the clerics are all busy resurrecting a bunch of murdered diplomats, and the cost of the diamonds is a strain on the national coffers.

 

[Zardnaar]

After a major crisis? Send troops to “help” then it’s hard to get them to go home. Waterdeep has a number of factions, I’m sure there is at least one that can see the advantages in controlling the city’s biggest competitor.

Long way from home in a foreign land. Gotta sleep at some point.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Long way from home in a foreign land. Gotta sleep at some point.

Distance is BGs strongest defence, but one would assume any force from Waterdeep would arrive by ship and could sleep aboard.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

Distance is BGs strongest defence, but one would assume any force from Waterdeep would arrive by ship and could sleep aboard.

Waterdeep just can't really do that. Maybe an individual Lord from Waterdeep could do that like Neverember did in Neverwinter, but I don't see it working as many of the leadership from BG is intact. Partially the Flaming Fist and it's leader as Grand Duke.