Behind the power curve [dragons]

Wolf72

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okay so I'm updating a word file I had that neatly listed all the skill points, free skills and feats that the core dragons got ...

I don't yet have to decide if I'm going to get 3.5, I can't even afford them right now!

soooo ...

skill points: okay, they get treated just like PC's. Only change I need to make is give 3 x skill mod (6 +/- int mod) ... (ps: I still won't give them retroactive skill points!)

skills: get to spend points where they want (listen, spot, search could take up a lot of skill points).

Question: do they still get spellcraft and/or jump for free? ... from what I read so far in the SRD, it looks like they don't.

Feats: what is now? just like pc's (1 +1/3 lvls) or is it still (1 +1/4 lvls).

I think that's all I got ...
[edit: aha! ... did they change around the stats any (especially intelligence) ... I'm reading thru the SRD, but I'm sure to miss some *wolf casts summon geeky-aides*]

ej
 
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Wolf72 said:
skill points: okay, they get treated just like PC's. Only change I need to make is give 3 x skill mod (6 +/- int mod) ... (ps: I still won't give them retroactive skill points!)
Ayup.

Wolf72 said:
skills: get to spend points where they want (listen, spot, search could take up a lot of skill points).

Question: do they still get spellcraft and/or jump for free? ... from what I read so far in the SRD, it looks like they don't.
True dragons now have a list of "class" skills, and each individual color has some (usually three, I think) extra "class" skills. That replaces the old free skills.

Wolf72 said:
Feats: what is now? just like pc's (1 +1/3 lvls) or is it still (1 +1/4 lvls).
As characters, 1 + 1/3 HD.

Wolf72 said:
did they change around the stats any (especially intelligence)
Don't think there were any major changes to the stats...
 


Here's the class entire skill list for the dragons:

All dragons
Concentration
Diplomacy
Escape Artist
Intimidate
Knowledge (Any)
Listen
Search
Sense Motive
Spot
Use Magic Device

Black
Hide
Move Silently
Swim

Blue
Bluff
Hide
Spellcraft

Green
Bluff
Hide
Move Silently

Red
Appraise
Bluff
Jump

White
Hide
Move Silently
Swim

Brass
Bluff
Gather Information
Survival

Bronze
Disguise
Swim
Survival

Copper
Bluff
Hide
Jump

Gold
Disguise
Heal
Swim

Silver
Bluff
Disguise
Jump

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Later,
 

thanks krish!

you wouldn't by any chance have a skill lists for: OA dragons, Gem Dragons, or FR Dragons would ya?

I'd imagine the base list would be the same ...
 



There is no skill list for the OA dragons, Gem Dragons, or FR Dragons yet. But I gave Shadow Dragons the Jump, Hide, and Move Silently Skills as class skills in my campaign. Just pick the three skills that you think fit the dragons personality and enviroment the best. Remember to give it the jump skill if the dragons old description says that the dragon got the jump skill for free, and the swim skill if the dragon has a swim speed, and you should be pretty safe. If in doubt, used the MM dragons as a guidline. ;)
 

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