Best Christmas films

Life of Brian? I mean, there’s a christmassy birth scene but I’d say that’s more of an Easter movie than a Christmas one.

That's quite fair. I'm struggling with the OP's definitions a bit. Really, I think Die Hard and It's A Wonderful Life Should both be category 2 and not 3. But the example clearly states Die Hard is 3, and IAWL being the same as Die Hard was my previous thesis. 🤷‍♂️
 

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Muppet Christmas Carol (runner-up A Christmas Story)
Home Alone (I would have thought this was in group 1, but I'll take it if its in group 2)
Babe (or is that Category 2? "Christmas Means Carnage!")
 

Yknow, if you're gonna try and get pedantic here, you're going to have to be more careful. Um, actually... It's A Wonderful Life is not a Type 1 movie. It was originally marketed as a romantic comedy (the original trailers never even mentioned Xmas), and does not explore Santa, Jesus, or any other directly Xmas themes. It merely (and only partially) takes place at Xmas and happened to be prematurely released to the public domain, which lead it it being broadcast as cheap filler by broadcasters, and therefore associated with Xmas. Taxonomically, it's identical to Die Hard. Associated with Xmas only by time and social construct.

That being said...

1. Nightmare Before Christmas

2. Life of Brian

3. It's a Wonderful Life

Honorable Mentions Not Talked About Yet: Edward Scissorhands, Batman Returns, Trading Places, Stalag 17, American Psycho
Well, that’s fair. I wasn’t trying to be pedantic so much as have a few categories so the thread wasn’t “your favourite Xmas film, however you define that”. The examples are of course my subjective choices.

However, while I agree that It’s A Wonderful Life owes its cultural legacy to being played at Xmas for free by every TV network ever for decades, I would say that it’s distinctly a Type 1 (though there’s definitely an argument for Type 2, sure). It’s not and was not marketed as a romantic comedy (“Wonderful Things Happen to Wonderful People” - it looks as if they really didn’t know what genre it was, apart from “heartwarming”) since it’s not a romance and it’s not a comedy. It’s a Christmas miracle film with probably these three themes:
  • George overcomes his lifelong bitterness at being trapped in Bedford Falls and realises that his life has value and meaning by being shown what the world would be like without him;
  • A quiet life lived in obscurity helping others is as valuable, if not more so, than a life spent accumulating wealth or having adventures;
  • Money can’t bring you happiness - however much you have, if you haven’t loved and been loved by your fellow human beings, your life is worthless.
I agree it’s unfair that Potter gets away with stealing the money but the point is that it doesn’t do him any good (it’s chump change to him and the Savings & Loan doesn’t close), and George’s friends and clients are given the opportunity to show their loyalty and affection by helping him in their turn. It’s very much a post-Depression film, and one with (some justified) hope for what the future will bring.
 

Well, that’s fair. I wasn’t trying to be pedantic so much as have a few categories so the thread wasn’t “your favourite Xmas film, however you define that”. The examples are of course my subjective choices.

However, while I agree that It’s A Wonderful Life owes its cultural legacy to being played at Xmas for free by every TV network ever for decades, I would say that it’s distinctly a Type 1 (though there’s definitely an argument for Type 2, sure). It’s not and was not marketed as a romantic comedy (“Wonderful Things Happen to Wonderful People” - it looks as if they really didn’t know what genre it was, apart from “heartwarming”) since it’s not a romance and it’s not a comedy. It’s a Christmas miracle film with probably these three themes:
  • George overcomes his lifelong bitterness at being trapped in Bedford Falls and realises that his life has value and meaning by being shown what the world would be like without him;
  • A quiet life lived in obscurity helping others is as valuable, if not more so, than a life spent accumulating wealth or having adventures;
  • Money can’t bring you happiness - however much you have, if you haven’t loved and been loved by your fellow human beings, your life is worthless.
I agree it’s unfair that Potter gets away with stealing the money but the point is that it doesn’t do him any good (it’s chump change to him and the Savings & Loan doesn’t close), and George’s friends and clients are given the opportunity to show their loyalty and affection by helping him in their turn. It’s very much a post-Depression film, and one with (some justified) hope for what the future will bring.

its not a Christmas movie however, the miracle could have happened in April while George was submitting his tax return, or maybe as part of Thanksgiving

or to really make a point Labor Day to show the solidarity of the proletariat angels ;)
 

i'll just point out the back story to the movie:

It is based on the short story and booklet "The Greatest Gift", self-published by Philip Van Doren Stern in 1943, which itself is loosely based on the 1843 Charles Dickens novella A Christmas Carol.

Also: On Christmas Eve 1945, in Bedford Falls, New York, George Bailey contemplates suicide. The prayers of his family and friends reach Heaven, where guardian angel second class Clarence Odbody is assigned to save George in order to earn his wings.
 

its not a Christmas movie however, the miracle could have happened in April while George was submitting his tax return, or maybe as part of Thanksgiving

or to really make a point Labor Day to show the solidarity of the proletariat angels ;)

It apparently has its genesis in a Christmas story...

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See more at: The Greatest Gift - Wikipedia

As far as the seasonal setting...
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And in regards to disagreements about the genre...

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its not a Christmas movie however, the miracle could have happened in April while George was submitting his tax return, or maybe as part of Thanksgiving

or to really make a point Labor Day to show the solidarity of the proletariat angels ;)
Totally agree but it’s more meaningful at Christmas because it’s a time to be generous and celebrate community. I suppose Thanksgiving might work, as a period of reflection on what we have.

Similarly, Die Hard is entirely unlinked to Christmas - McClane might have been trying to see his wife and family at Thanksgiving or on his daughter’s birthday.
 
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Similarly, Die Hard is entirely unlinked to Christmas - McClane might have been trying to see his wife and family at Thanksgiving or on his daughter’s birthday,
And, most importantly, was released in July. I think that one of the primary qualifiers of a Christmas movie is that it be released around Christmas.
 

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