Best Modern Game System

[Nadaka]

yes. Alternity is indeed one of the ancestors of d20, along with the SPECIAL system IMO.

Though personally I much prefer the fixed bonus of d20 over the die steps. And I never could really get into alternity because there were a lot of characters I wanted to play that just didn't fit with the system very well.

 

[Vigilance]

Best show on TV for my money.

Makes me want to play a B&V game.

--fje

Definitely yes on both counts.

Im really glad this show came around when it did too, because the only other show I was watching took a big wrong turn for me (The Unit).

Chuck

 

[Greg K]

Best show on TV for my money.

Makes me want to play a B&V game.

--fje

Definitely the best show on TV. However, no offense to Vigilance as he is one of my two favorite designers, the show makes me want to play M&M ( can you guess who is my other favorite designer?)

 

[AdmundfortGeographer]

Im really glad this show came around when it did too, because the only other show I was watching took a big wrong turn for me (The Unit).

I hate to threadjack, but I'm really curious what you think has gone wrong with that show?

 

[Greg K]

Psst! Word is, Blood & Fists is getting the True20 treatment soon.

That would be so awesome! I would love to see the entire "Blood and [X]", "Legends of," and Darwin's World get the True20 treatment.

However, I do have two questions. If Blood & Fists gets the True20 treatment, do I get an e-copy for already having the d20M version? If not, will they send me a print copy, if I send them my d20M copy (which is the only way I would ever give it up short of someone prying it from my dead hands)?

 

[HeapThaumaturgist]

Definitely the best show on TV. However, no offense to Vigilance as he is one of my two favorite designers, the show makes me want to play M&M ( can you guess who is my other favorite designer?)

Ehhhh, I've got both games and, honestly, to me, I think Blood and Vigilance would do a better job of modeling the things in the show.

M&M is 4-Color. It scales down toward "Street Level", but it seems to always do "common man on the street" with a bit too high of granularity for me.

Not that M&M is a bad game, not at all. I've run a TV show with it before: "Teen Titans". It did a VERY good job of that (perfect, I'd say).

Right now, in Heroes, there's very little difference between the heroes and the non-heroes. d20Modern characters with one power strapped on pretty much sums it up to me. More often than not, it seems, the characters' regular-joe real-life selves are just as, if not far more, important than their power. *Even going so far as to shape and direct what power they develop, goes my assertation. It's the Godlike method of superheroics.*

Seems more likely that an M&M character is defined by his power, versus a d20Modern/BV character if you start without powers. Feels like a M&M character without any powers is just a collection of tertiary numbers waiting for definition ... dunno. I'd probably start off with, say, regular d20Modern characters at 4th-5th level and do a special Origin that the "Heroes" would get at 6th.

--fje

 

[Vigilance]

I hate to threadjack, but I'm really curious what you think has gone wrong with that show?

It was always SOMETHING of a soaper... but for me this season has gone way too far in that direction for me to bother watching every week.

I'll get the DVDs so I can skip the silly parts.

Chuck

 

[Vigilance]

That would be so awesome! I would love to see the entire "Blood and [X]", "Legends of," and Darwin's World get the True20 treatment.

However, I do have two questions. If Blood & Fists gets the True20 treatment, do I get an e-copy for already having the d20M version? If not, will they send me a print copy, if I send them my d20M copy (which is the only way I would ever give it up short of someone prying it from my dead hands)?

Lol.

Well Id say you were in luck on the first part. In case you weren't aware, my first True 20 book was in fact Legends of Excalibur and it's out right now!

Secondly, I am definitely doing a Blood and book for True 20 but it is not 100% picked yet. I would say right now odds are it will either be Blood and Fists or Blood and Relics.

Lastly, it's such a no-brainer that we'd also do a Darwin's World that I won't even deny it and Chris has tentatively tagged me to do that one.

As for print copies, I think as of right now these will only be PDFs but if we can ever find a truly reliable POD outlet then that would be a strong option.

Chuck

 

[Committed Hero]

yes. Alternity is indeed one of the ancestors of d20, along with the SPECIAL system IMO.

And Ars Magica.

 

[jonrog1]

I'll agree with jonrog1 here... True20's so close to classless that it could easily go classless without much trouble.

And it may get me into trouble to say so, but the first chapter of the True20 Companion is a point-based guide to designing your own roles (classes). It's as close to point-buy as the system has ever come this side of M&M.

By the way, jonrog1, good to see you back! I've really enjoyed Eureka's first season.

Thanks, but all I did was consult for a few weeks and write the third episode. That's all Andy Cosby's baby right there (you will note, by the way, that both Andy and Jo from my D20 Modern story hour are on that show. Andy as creator/showrunner and Jo on her first paid writing gig -- which she kicked enormous butt at.)

Good to be back -- I've been jammed with script work for about a year now, from TRANSFORMERS to SHIBUMI and then The Big Sequel That Shall Remain Nameless this fall. But I've been hanging around the fringes. Wrote up a race and some paths for True20's Iron Crane setting plus a low-level adventure I need to put a shine on, and supposed to be doing work for the Agents of Oblivion setting, which is really, really fine. I've got about half a chase system done for them, and a low-level adventure outlined. Hopefully, when Hollywood goes to sleep at Christmas, I can bang through those.

But my laptop has as many EN World-bought pdf's on it as scripts. Once a dice-slinger, always a dice-slinger ...