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What's the least evil way to get Mithara into the group and who will I lose for doing so?
Either ignore the Refugee Quest entirely before moving on to Act 2 or the Mountain Pass, or expose Kagha as a Shadow Druid and ignore the Kill the Goblin Leader quest. In the first case, the Tieflings will die but Minthara should be at Moonrise Towers in Act 2. In the second case, I believe the Tieflings should survive to get to the Last Light Inn and Minthara will also make it to Moonrise Towers.

I've heard that you can also recruit Minthara by causing the civil war between the Druids and Tieflings.
 

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Finally got Minsc! Now it’s my group is PC Sorcerer, Minsc as a Berserker with gear and fetas to kick butt with a 2hander. Jaheria the Druid for heals (I hope). And Karlach the Ranger.

I fear I will miss Shadowheart who was a tank healer extraordinaire
 

Hey, I've avoided reading this thread before my wife and I start playing this in December, so I apologize if this has been covered.

For planning purposes:, what are PC illusion spells like in this game? Is it worth trying an illusionist, or will it be a pretty disappointing experience?
 

Hey, I've avoided reading this thread before my wife and I start playing this in December, so I apologize if this has been covered.

For planning purposes:, what are PC illusion spells like in this game? Is it worth trying an illusionist, or will it be a pretty disappointing experience?

I didnt use them much, but casting was a secondary concern to me outside of counterspells, and fireballs or other AOE really.
 

For planning purposes:, what are PC illusion spells like in this game? Is it worth trying an illusionist, or will it be a pretty disappointing experience?
It will be a pretty disappointing experience, in my opinion. Minor Illusion just creates an illusory cat that lures NPCs to a specific area, which is pretty useful if you use it before combat/while stealing, but isn't as versatile as it is in 5e. Disguise Self can be pretty useful for dialogue checks and exploration, but is still pretty limited when compared to 5e. A lot of other notable 5e illusion spells aren't present in the game and the most that were are severely nerfed (Phantasmal Force, Mirror Image, Greater Invisibility).
 
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While a lot of the experience through Baldur’s Gate 3 is as a fighting monsters tactical game, there are a surprising amount of magic that can in fact happen outside of combat for the heritage of game I was used to.

in my opinion, most subclasses of wizards underperform in tactical compared to the other arcane casters, but they can be perfectly capable. Even then, wizards just are not top caster.

As an illusion specialist wizard, their subclass benefits in combat are of more niche benefit than Abjuration of Evocation. For a stealth-style game, minor illusion will really aid in sneaking, pickpocketing, getting past doors that are watched, unlocking what is in public. The 2nd level illusionist benefit around minor illusion allows casting minor illusion while hidden and silenced. However minor illusion scrolls are abundant, so anyone can cast them. How often will you find yourself silenced or needing to stay hidden? I did not find my casters being hit with silence a lot, and I found that I could break the group and have another character engage dialog with the NPC in order to make them change facing so my stealth character could get in behind them to open a door or pickpocket.

Disguise self, I’m told, can change dialog options offered so that might have some value for you! Again, disguise self scrolls are going to be pretty common, and any class can cast from a scroll.

Brewing potions of invisibility is something that can be done as your party finds ingredients. Anyone can brew potions, although transmuter wizards have a chance to double potion output if they do the alchemy.

in the end, the diminished spell availability kinda makes the Wizard class not the top caster like they can be in table top (I’m not saying they are terrible), and the illusion spells that are in the game can be okay but there is no DM to get creative with things.
 

in the end, the diminished spell availability kinda makes the Wizard class not the top caster like they can be in table top (I’m not saying they are terrible), and the illusion spells that are in the game can be okay but there is no DM to get creative with things.
You harped on one of the weakest Wizard subclasses in both BG3 and 5e to say that the entire Wizard isn't a top class?
 


You harped on one of the weakest Wizard subclasses in both BG3 and 5e to say that the entire Wizard isn't a top class?
That reads like an uncharitable misreading of what I wrote. I would be interested in an argument that the wizard class itself is a top caster class in BG3 regardless of subclass.

From what I’ve watched of other builds, sorcerer builds improve on most things wizards could do. With the wide availability of scrolls anyone can cast, a warlock is not hampered by slot shortages and still gets warlocky goodness.
 
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