ToV Black Flag Reference Document (BFRD) Now in Creative Commons CC-BY 4.0

[mamba]

The ORC license is a lot less attractive than the OG OGL, IMO. I wouldn't see the point to spending the energy publishing something under it as a third party.

I thought it is basically the OGL but with less wiggle room when it comes to what has to be open (for licensees). What makes it a lot less attractive to you?

 

[Parmandur]

I thought it is basically the OGL but with less wiggle room when it comes to what has to be open (for licensees). What makes it a lot less attractive to you?

The "lack of wiggle room" severely undersells what is basically a complete dealbreaker. It basically kills it as a license that a rational actor would sign on for as a third party IMO...and the presence of the predominant system om the market being under the "more wiggle room" Creative Commons makes avoiding it a no-brainer. Creative Commons, like public domain, respects the original contributions of creators. ORC basically involves surrendering legal rights to the originating party.

 

[Marc Radle]

I think the important thing (for purposes this thread at any rate) is that the Blag Flag Reference Document (BFRD) is now in the Creative Commons

 

[mamba]

I think the important thing (for purposes this thread at any rate) is that the Blag Flag Reference Document (BFRD) is now in the Creative Commons

Yep, thanks for that

 

[Marc Radle]

 

[Parmandur]

I think the important thing (for purposes this thread at any rate) is that the Blag Flag Reference Document (BFRD) is now in the Creative Commons

Right, and that makes sense, since CC is a superior option for third parties.

 

[Chaltab]

ORC basically involves surrendering legal rights to the originating party.

My understanding is, the ORC does what it does because so many people using the OGL just declared everything, including game mechanics, as product identity. The ORC's lack of wiggle room was specifically designed to keep the chain of open content open. The fact that it requires a lot more of people trying to use it on good faith, however, does make it less appealing than just making a separate SRD that you can put in the Creative Commons.

 

[Parmandur]

My understanding is, the ORC does what it does because so many people using the OGL just declared everything, including game mechanics, as product identity. The ORC's lack of wiggle room was specifically designed to keep the chain of open content open. The fact that it requires a lot more of people trying to use it on good faith, however, does make it less appealing than just making a separate SRD that you can put in the Creative Commons.

Well, yes, that is what I am talking about as being a problem. ORC, from an "open gaming" extremist position "fixes" the OGal...but in practical terms makes it unattractive for creators.

 

[bedir than]

My understanding is, the ORC does what it does because so many people using the OGL just declared everything, including game mechanics, as product identity. The ORC's lack of wiggle room was specifically designed to keep the chain of open content open. The fact that it requires a lot more of people trying to use it on good faith, however, does make it less appealing than just making a separate SRD that you can put in the Creative Commons.

The other issue is that as a more restrictive license it lets creators develop a project based on another system then lock it down in the ORC, not granting a third-party creator the same benefits that the originator of the top stream ORC creator had.

See Black Flag until this wonderful, amazing change.