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Blu-Ray players and movies

tecnowraith

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We are thinking of upgrading to blu-ray and we are wandering which brand to get and what to for in buy a player? Also are ther and special edition version of movies for the blu-ray and if not what is the difference between SE DVDs and standard Blu-ray versions?
 

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XCorvis

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Blue-Ray discs can hold more data, and they should have a higher-quality picture, but there's nothing that says they have to have more content than their DVD counterpart. Most likely they have the same or more, but you'll have to compare the versions if you really want to know.

This may not appeal to you, but I recently read an article that said that the Blue-Ray performance on a computer with a mid-range video card is very much superior to low end blue-ray players. If you've already got a home theater PC or are considering one, that would give you better picture.
 


frankthedm

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If you plan on getting a blu ray player, a PS3 might be a good idea unless you planned on a high end Blu ray player.

Not a fan of blu ray myself. I find stuff like this unforgivable...

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Rackhir

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I have found this web site to be a good guide to things like the quality of the transfer/soundtrack.

Blu-ray.com - Blu-ray Movies, Players, Recorders, DVDs, Media and Software

It can vary considerably and there's no point in replacing a DVD if the Blu Ray isn't much better. They also usually will tell you what if any special features there are and how their number/quality compares to those on the DVD editions.

In general, the more recent the disk release is, the better it will be. Older (especially first generation) releases often had shoddy video (well shoddy for blu ray) quality.

Keep in mind that you need a GOOD quality TV (at least 50" and 60+ is preferable) and a good quality sound system to get the most out of a blu ray movie. If you have neither it really isn't worth going with blu ray.

BTW, you don't have to have an AVR that supports the "lossless" audio codecs (TruHD, DTS Master Audio) to get benefit from the improved sound quality. The regular Dolby Digital and DTS tracks are much higher bit rates than the DVD equivalent and thus sound better.

In general the PS3 ($300) is still one of the best blu ray players (plus you get a dammed good game machine) and about as "future proof. Expect to pay at least $150-200 for a good player. It should be "Profile 2.0". Product reviews and prices, software downloads, and tech news - CNET has reviews on a wide variety of blu ray players. So they're a good source of information. The current "king" of the blu ray players is the Oppo BD-83. It is very fast and has pretty much every feature you could ask for. But at $500 it is fairly pricey. The biggest complaint about cheap blu ray players is that they can be quite slow in operations (starting up, loading disks, etc...). Faster operation is one of the major things more money buys.

I have NEVER gotten that "needs an update" message from a blu ray disk with my PS3. Of course that get's updated fairly often (usually adding new features in the process) anyway.
 

tecnowraith

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Hey, thanks for the info, this very helpful. Ok he is an update for my inquire. It looks like I will be getting the ps3 and my parent will get a standard Blu-Ray player for the living room since they are not gamers. My question now is which standard player similar to the PS3 in features without the gaming?
 

Rackhir

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Hey, thanks for the info, this very helpful. Ok he is an update for my inquire. It looks like I will be getting the ps3 and my parent will get a standard Blu-Ray player for the living room since they are not gamers. My question now is which standard player similar to the PS3 in features without the gaming?

Here's a round up on CNET of what they think are the best blu ray players

For a moderate price, the Samsung BD-P3600 seems to be your best bet. It covers nearly everything you might want, especially Netflix streaming.
Samsung BD-P3600 DVD Player reviews - CNET Reviews

Are there particular non-gaming features of the PS3 that you want?
 
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John Crichton

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Hey, thanks for the info, this very helpful. Ok he is an update for my inquire. It looks like I will be getting the ps3 and my parent will get a standard Blu-Ray player for the living room since they are not gamers. My question now is which standard player similar to the PS3 in features without the gaming?
As long as it can connect to the net to use BR-live and get firmware updates you should be good to go. Good call on the PS3.

The Samsung mentioned above appears to be a solid buy as a gift.
 

tecnowraith

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Ok we will be getting a PS3 and was wandering which one to get, the 120 GB or 250 GB hard drive? Does it make any real difference between the two?
 

John Crichton

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Nope, just the HD size. If you ever want more size you can always put in a larger HD.

Honestly, I'd just get the machine with the best game bundle. :)
 

Rackhir

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Ok we will be getting a PS3 and was wandering which one to get, the 120 GB or 250 GB hard drive? Does it make any real difference between the two?

The PS3 uses a standard 2.5" (notebook) SATA HD. So if you really need more space, you can just buy one. Put it in an external USB case and the PS3 can backup it's self up to the external HD. Then swap the drives (a fairly simple operation) and SHAZAM you've got a much larger HD. So I'd just get the 120 gb model and buy a larger HD should you need one. I've had my PS3 for about 2 yrs and only recently filled the drive. A couple of quick demo deletions and installed files for other games and I was fine.

You're only going to need a large HD if you plan on storing a lot of music/video files on it and/or get heavily into downloaded games.
 

Janx

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The PS3 uses a standard 2.5" (notebook) SATA HD. So if you really need more space, you can just buy one. Put it in an external USB case and the PS3 can backup it's self up to the external HD. Then swap the drives (a fairly simple operation) and SHAZAM you've got a much larger HD. So I'd just get the 120 gb model and buy a larger HD should you need one. I've had my PS3 for about 2 yrs and only recently filled the drive. A couple of quick demo deletions and installed files for other games and I was fine.

You're only going to need a large HD if you plan on storing a lot of music/video files on it and/or get heavily into downloaded games.

I own a ps3, and part of your process sounds wrong, though the intent is good.

The PS3 wil back itself up to an external drive FAT32 format in a sub-directory. You can't back it up to the "bigger' driver, and then pop the bigger drive into the PS3, because the PS3 needs the drive to be in a different format.

To do what you're saying, yoy need 3 drives. the original PS3, the new bigger drive, and a USB drive that is big enough to do a backup.

On what size to get, I have a an original 60GB model. If you're not saving movies on it (or music), it'll be enough space. I still have 30+ GB available, and the new models come with more disk.

Just get the smaller unit. If you really need space, it is very easy/cheap to upgrade. I still have space on my 360, and that's only 20GB. The drive it comes with will be fine.

If you do want to store music/movies, I recommend an external solution so it is portable between systems. Use either an external USB drive, or a file server.

I use a Dlink 321 Network Attached Storage (NAS) with 2x 640GB drives, mirrored (RAID1). It is a network drive. My PS3, 360 and all my PCs see it. So I can rip movies/music and store it on the NAS, and both my game systems see it. Plus, as a mirrored drive system, if a drive goes bad, I don't lose my data.
 

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