Book of the Righteous Dethroned!

[Mark]

Hey I'm a chatroom guy most of the time and I swear there was another CMG person there. Of course it is 1 AM, so I may be hallucinating memories from more than a year ago.

On the rare ocassion that I have a chance to spend time in a chatroom, I do go by CMG_Mark (or Mark_CMG)...but never by CMGSomebody!


Indeed!


Good day, Sir!

 

[Kalanyr]

ROFL, I conceed CMG_Mark you will be then. You have my apologies , as does CMGSomebody .

 

[Mark]

I conceed CMG_Mark you will be then. You have my apologies

Thank you. You're very kind...

...as does CMGSomebody .

I SAID, "GOOD DAY, SIR!"

 

[JoeGKushner]

Other Reviews?

Well, one thing I'd love to see come from this is other people reviewing the book. I know it's a huge book, but I'd like to see how their reviw scores reflect it's actual game use now that some time has gone by as well as the overall utility/cool factor of the book.

 

[HellHound]

3-4 years ago? Wasn't the book published 8/2002, two years ago? At least thats when the first reviews are dated on the reviews site ..

I think that the book Henry is thinking about is the first module by Paradigm Concepts ever released during the advent of d20... which was reviewed in the past month here with a 1/5 review.

And yeah, that was published well over 3 years ago.

 

[Paradigm]

As long as the author doesn't knock points off for the book using 3.0 rules, then I don't really see the comparison here. Bad art, layout, editing, and ideas remain bad no matter how long it's been since they were published (I'm not saying BotR has any of these). If things have truly gotten much better now, then it's legitimate to say that a book doesn't stand the test of time.

The quality bar has been raised every year for a decade. The quality of art is far ahead of how books looked just a few years ago and the sophisitcation of layout as well. Even paper quality is higher.

My point has little to do with this individual review for Book of the Righteous and more to a general trend I have seen lately to review the production quality and sophistication of d20 rules manipulation of a 3 or 4 year old book to one put out today. d20 folks, customers and manufacturers both, have a better grasp on the rules today and some things that seemed clever then now seem basic.

 

[trancejeremy]

Well, bear in mind, that not everyone can afford a book when it first comes out. And so when they buy it a couple years later, they might want to write a review of it, because they are bored or something.

Anyway, I find the mere existance of this thread disturbing, because it seems to be that if you don't fit into the beliefs of everyone else, then your opinion doesn't matter. Some people didn't like the BoR. But it seems like their opinions don't count, and their reviews are discarded. How is that fair, exactly?

Especially when it seems to only apply to certain companies. Fan favorite companies.

 

[Psion]

Anyway, I find the mere existance of this thread disturbing, because it seems to be that if you don't fit into the beliefs of everyone else, then your opinion doesn't matter. Some people didn't like the BoR. But it seems like their opinions don't count, and their reviews are discarded. How is that fair, exactly?

Since his review hasn't been discarded, I don't know where you get off saying that.

 

[Lord Pendragon]

Since his review hasn't been discarded, I don't know where you get off saying that.

Perhaps not, but the fact that the author was concerned enough that he felt he needed to contact a moderator speaks volumes.

After reading this thread a few days ago, I went to the review section and read the policy there, and I must say that I'd be nervous about writing a negative review. CRGreathouse certainly was.

 

[JacktheRabbit]

At the time I bought the book, I didn't have a set-in-stone pantheon, so I hoped to add many/most of their gods directly into my campaign world. I was told the information on using gods in your world would be useful in designing mine. I thought that the prestige classes could be used (without serial numbers), and that the holy warrior could be used directly.

I thought that the creation mythos would be useful, since at the time I didn't have one. I hoped the section on evil gods and cults would inspire me, giving me plot ideas even if I didn't take anything wholesale.

Generally, I bought this book because I heard good things about it and wanted to buy books that would help me make a pantheon and cosmology. All I can say is that two years later, I haven't used a single class, prestige class, item, backstory, spell, or monster from the BotR. I *almost* used one of their domains -- but ended up doing nothing more than typing it up and finding it didn't fit as closely as I wanted.

Sounds like your review needs to be panned. If you cannot use even a "single" domain in your campaign then you are anal retentive to a level that really makes your opinion irrelevant to anyone else who might be interested in the product.