Boots of Speed/Spring Attack

[Katerek]

Can someone give me an idea of how the Boots of Speed would effect someone withthe Spring Attack feat?

Spring Attack is worded so dang vague, my group and I are arguing over interpretations.

I would really appreciate any help.

 

[drowdude]

Boots of Speed or Boots of Striding and Springing?



(edit: just to clarify... I wasnt trying to be unhelpful here... I just have know a number of people who confuse the 2, so I wanted to clarify which he was asking about...)

 

[Crothian]

Spring attack allows you to move, attack, and move without drawing an AoO from the opponent as a full round action. The base speed of the opponet doesn't matter. If you are under a haste spell then you can take a partial action before or after the spring attack action.

 

[Corwin]

Well, let's see. Under certain circumstances you could get two attacks on someone, even after having to move up to them, and still move away after.

Start by using the extra partial action to partial charge an opponent up to your movement rate from you. This gets you a single attack using your highest BAB.

As your standard action, you attack once more (again at your full BAB) and use spring attack to move away again.

There. A double hit spring attack.

 

[Darklone]

You don't need Spring attack for Attacking after the partial charge and moving away. Only difference: He would get no AoO if you had Spring Attack. Probably not.

 

[Corwin]

You don't need Spring attack for Attacking after the partial charge and moving away. Only difference: He would get no AoO if you had Spring Attack. Probably not.

And your point? Of course you don't need the feat to attack. But, to attack and move away would draw the AoO (there is no "probably not"). Spring Attack alleviates the penalty of drawing the AoO. Sounds good to me. Or are you saying the feat is worthless in general? Something I disagree with.

 

[Darklone]

Nah, I didn't say the feat is worthless.

I just wanted to point out that someone with Tumble and hasted could do the same as you showed with your example without having spring attack.

Some nice reasons to have Spring attack:

• Attack giants and ogres without being tripped before bashing
• Taking whirlwind soon
• Fighting with a polearm against someone with more attacks than yourself. Get close, attack, get away. If he wants to close, trip him or bash him badly. If he manages nonetheless, step 5 ft back (no 5ft step), bash, step back another 5ft. Or more. No AoO and you can give him one if he tries to close with you again.
• You like to use your monks high speed against a slow but otherwise superior opponent by staying out of reach.

 

[Corwin]

Except that Katerek wanted to know specifically how the feat interacted with Haste (in this case from boots). If someone happens to have both, my statement is an example of what you can do.

Look, I don't think this was supposed to be a discussion about how to "mimic" these abilities with other skills/feats/abilities/whatever. Katerek never mentioned anything about the wearer of the boots having the Tumble skill, BTW.

What I'm trying to do here is add to the discussion by explaining what someone can do when they do have these things. Something asked of us by the original poster.

What are you trying to do here?

 

[mikebr99]

Well, let's see. Under certain circumstances you could get two attacks on someone, even after having to move up to them, and still move away after.

Start by using the extra partial action to partial charge an opponent up to your movement rate from you. This gets you a single attack using your highest BAB.

As your standard action, you attack once more (again at your full BAB) and use spring attack to move away again.

There. A double hit spring attack.

Except that you have to have some movement before and after the attack. SO, move 5ft. in some direction, still keeping the target in your threat range, attack once, then spring back in some direction with some movement up to the total minus the initial 5ft.

When using the attack action with a melee weapon, the character can move both before and after the attack, provided
that the character's total distance moved is not greater than the character's speed. Moving in this way does not provoke an
attack of opportunity from the defender the character attacks.

 

[Darklone]

What are you trying to do here?

Now that's a good question

Heading towards a pub now!