[BoVD] So... did the sky fall?

[Gizzard]

Maybe more interesting than "I told you so", "No you didnt!" is the question of how BoVD is doing in the marketplace. This is the issue that will determine if we see more similar material in the long run.

My FLGS ordered maybe five copies originally and had sold out within the week. They had restocked and currently have about seven copies available. This is a relatively large restock for this shop, they must have been extremely excited with the interest level in the first shipment.

So, how is BoVD doing at your FLGS? And, perhaps someone can check its sales rank on Amazon relative to some other current products; that would be an interesting number. Or perhaps someone in the know can tell us whether the powers that be at WotC are pleased/displeased. Many different angles we can begin speculating from. ;-)

 

[jgbrowning]

Gee, funny, it pretty much turned out exactly how I had predicted it would be before Dragon 300 came out (dragon 300 gave me more reason to fear.) Monte didn't doo too bad, but there were still enough gratuitous references that I found part of it distasteful, and the graphic presentation was a bit over the line ... just as I predicted.

So if you think you're saying "I told you so" to me, right back at ya.

Yah, i picked it up, looked through it and though pretty much the same thing. Most of the "vile" art seemed a bit more juvinile than vile. Just my opinion, but there's more to being vile than looking vile.

I would have loved to have seen a radiant, respendant, iconic hero of goodness bathed in a glowing aura that was really evil. I'd prefer a book that was as equally interested in exploring the real evil: deception. Body piercings, tatoos and a focus on excretions in all their various forms is only part of the definition of the word vile.

Normally art doesn't influence my decisions concerning purchasing gaming material, but this is a rare abberation.

just me .002$. Also, like i said i didn't read the rules, i didn't buy it, but i assume that monte didnt do anything stupid rules-wise. I might pick it up if i see it at my local half-price bookstore.

joe b.

 

[Buttercup]

So if you think you're saying "I told you so" to me, right back at ya.

Heck, Psion, I hadn't even thought of you. Naming no names, but there were at least three people who predicted some level of unpleasant attention by the religious right. I don't think you were one of those. Egregious comparisons were made, and lurid descriptions of what certain posters *imagined* would be in the book ensued. You certainly weren't one of those. You never advocated censorship, nor did you treat us to your vile imaginings, nor did you compare Dragon 300 to a terrorist attack.

My "I told you so" was to those folks, who, as a matter of fact, have been strangely silent since the book came out.

 

[Heathen72]

just me .002$. joe b.

Wow, The US has "tenths of cents" now! You guys must be undergoing some sort of rampant anti-inflation!

 

[Tyler Do'Urden]

Sodomy got the shaft.

Isn't that redundant?

 

[Squire James]

Yeah, many places in the U.S. still figure their property taxes by a money unit called the mil (which is 0.1 cents), probably because they want to hide the fact that "7 mil per dollar per year" is still a very high amount when you're talking about the appraised value of your home!

Mark Twain gets into some discussions about inflation in "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court" (mostly saying that peasants didn't want to understand inflation, like our country's so much better now that we do!), and mentions a yet lower unit called the "milney" that was apparently 0.01 cents. They actually had coins for them, apparently. I am guessing the mil was still in common use in Twain's time (the late 1800's), though it seems to have disappeared very early in the 20th century.

 

[Psion]

The point here, Olive, Buttercup, is not that there weren't people that overreacted. Rather, I was trying to say that Olive's post makes it sound like those people who criticized the BoVD before it came out were all over-reacting. My counter point is that there are many of us who were concerned about the BoVD over fears that DID come to pass.

FWIW, its has some fairly neat material that I have already put to use (used psychic poisons and a few spells last week). I think the problem with BoVD is that it was propelled by marketing and hype to put on a nastier face than it really needed to have.

 

[Olive]

The point here, Olive, Buttercup, is not that there weren't people that overreacted. Rather, I was trying to say that Olive's post makes it sound like those people who criticized the BoVD before it came out were all over-reacting. My counter point is that there are many of us who were concerned about the BoVD over fears that DID come to pass.

sorry about that Psion, there were particular people i was thinking of when i posted, but i didn't want to say "Look ********, you were WRONG WRONG WRONG!!"...

i still disagree with you (as in what you were worried about doesn't owrry me at all), but think that your fears were logical and rational and so alls good in the hood. other people, whom i suspect buttercup may be thinking of as well, were not so rational and logical.

 

[Olive]

FWIW, its has some fairly neat material that I have already put to use (used psychic poisons and a few spells last week). I think the problem with BoVD is that it was propelled by marketing and hype to put on a nastier face than it really needed to have.

i agree, and in fact, its bugging me. mostly because i know that monte wrote some extra stuff (archdevil write up on geryon for example) that was intended for a web supplement that wizards won't release due to the mature content of BoVD... judging by the other archdevil writeups (the demons less so, and instestuous references aside) i can't see what would be bad in it...

 

[BOZ]

Sodomy got the shaft.

ROFL!!