Buffy to be canceled!

[John Crichton]

Just quickly on the Faith spinoff: There won't be one because Eliza has signed on to do another show. But there are other threads on that so check em out for some other takes.

 

[Jemal]

Haven't watched more than a few seconds of it - you're saying Will fancies Grace or some other female person?

WILL&GRACE SPOILER:
If you watch until the last episode, Will+Grace Get married.
(If my aunt, who's a big W&G fan just like I'm a BTVS fan, isn't yanking my chain.)

 

[Chun-tzu]

WILL&GRACE SPOILER:
If you watch until the last episode, Will+Grace Get married.
(If my aunt, who's a big W&G fan just like I'm a BTVS fan, isn't yanking my chain.)

Personally, I highly doubt that will happen. First, I seriously doubt the last episode has been even written yet. Second, I think the gay community, one of its target audiences, would be highly offended. Third, and this doesn't necessarily mean much, but Grace is now married, and it's not to Will.

 

[Dinkeldog]

Nothing to do with being offended. Reality dictates, however...and we know how often the world throws reality out the window.

 

[KitanaVorr]

Originally posted by Jemal
WILL&GRACE SPOILER:
If you watch until the last episode, Will+Grace Get married.
(If my aunt, who's a big W&G fan just like I'm a BTVS fan, isn't yanking my chain.)

um...Will seems pretty 100% homesexual to me! I don't think he'd want to give up what men have to offer to go to Grace, and yes she seems pretty happily married right about now.

As for Willow & Tara, I agree that I always thought Willow was bisexual and was disappointed when she took a complete turn around and forgot the last half of her life in the series. Its sort of like on TV you can be heterosexual or homosexual but you're not allowed to be bisexual.

Personally I think there are more people who are bisexual (closet or otherwise) than there are who are either homosexual or heterosexual mostly because women and men in many cultures around the world don't face the same stigma with same-gender relationships.

And while we're on the subject...Asian actors/actresses are seriously underrepresented in American TV as something other than a stereotype or token diversity sidekick.

 

[S'mon]

Originally posted by KitanaVorr

>>As for Willow & Tara, I agree that I always thought Willow was bisexual and was disappointed when she took a complete turn around and forgot the last half of her life in the series. Its sort of like on TV you can be heterosexual or homosexual but you're not allowed to be bisexual.<<

Well said - bisexuality seems to be 'beyond the pale', perhaps even more now than 20 years ago (sexual ambiguity seems to have been big in the '70s) - I wonder if it's something to do with the social impact of AIDs? Until I read this thread it hadn't occurred to me that it was homosexual-rights groups pushing this, I assumed if anything it was conservative TV networks.

>>Personally I think there are more people who are bisexual (closet or otherwise) than there are who are either homosexual or heterosexual mostly because women and men in many cultures around the world don't face the same stigma with same-gender relationships.<<

Given that there have been cultures where homosexuality has been the norm (with heterosexual relations relegated to an inferior position), like classical Greece, I would tend to agree that the genetic potential for attraction to either gender probably lies within the majority of the population - I don't think we're genetically much different from the ancient Greeks, even though our culture is. That's not the same as saying that most people are in actuality bisexual, in a culture with strong social prescriptions most people will be brought up to follow the prescribed line, and that will suit all but a small minority. In 1950s America that would be to be heterosexual, in modern Californian culture seen on tv it seems you are allowed to be straight or gay, but not bi.

>>And while we're on the subject...Asian actors/actresses are seriously underrepresented in American TV as something other than a stereotype or token diversity sidekick. <<

I'm sure you're right - there seem to be more now than previously, though. What I notice most in US tv is the almost total absence of hispanic characters in most tv shows set in Los Angeles, there seem to be more hispanic actors in shows filmed in Vancouver or (especially) New York.

 

[KitanaVorr]

I'm sure you're right - there seem to be more now than previously, though. What I notice most in US tv is the almost total absence of hispanic characters in most tv shows set in Los Angeles, there seem to be more hispanic actors in shows filmed in Vancouver or (especially) New York.

Actually, there are alot more hispanic actors/actresses in TV now, not including that there are major latin networks in California and Texas that are completely devoted to hispanic, music stations, etc.

Not a huge amount, but a great deal more. Greetings from Tuscon (which is an incredibly funny and well done sitcom) is a good example of one. Kingpin (a drama) is another. Granted they do play off stereotypes, but its a start and the shows are highly rated.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

For the black/white coupling in TV and movies:
I just watched Shaft, and the victim at the beginning of the movie is black and seems to have a white girlfriend.

Mustrum Ridcully

 

[S'mon]

For the black/white coupling in TV and movies:
I just watched Shaft, and the victim at the beginning of the movie is black and seems to have a white girlfriend.

Mustrum Ridcully

'girlfriend'?

 

[WizarDru]

'girlfriend'?

Heh heh. Well, we've come a long way from the 70's, huh?