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Build me a katana + trenchcoat guy

hong

WotC's bitch
So, how would you build a katana + trenchcoat guy in 4E? AKA, big sword/light armour. No books here, or I'd do it myself.
 

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Ginnel

First Post
hong said:
So, how would you build a katana + trenchcoat guy in 4E? AKA, big sword/light armour. No books here, or I'd do it myself.
Well that'd be a ranger with two weapon fighting, katana and waki-zashi
and leather armor, buda bing buda bang all done :p

well you may want him to pick up profiency in katana if its there I suppose but I see nothing wrong with long sword and short sword myself
 



Rechan

Adventurer
Honestly?

I'd go Ranger. Then I'd beg my DM to let me use my single sword instead of two weapons (i.e. take two attacks with it, instead of using two weapons). Negotiate a penalty or something.

That way, you're a mobile dude who can put the hurt on one guy, or a lot of little guys, and you got your big scary weapon.

Otherwise, go Fighter, get Bastard sword, go two-handed weapon fighting, and just ignore armor. :cool:
 

Antioch

First Post
Big sword and light-to-no armor?

Trenchcoat is cloth armor (0 AC), but you can get it magic and at later levels made of feyweave and then starweave (better starting AC). Then, I would let you pick an arrangement of rogue/fighter powers so that you can emphasize heavy blade attacks and fast rogue utilities.
So, you can have Brute Strike and Tumble, for example.
 

Ginnel

First Post
hong said:
TWF is too easy. How would you do it if you wanted a Cloud-style daiklave?
Easy, fighter with focusing on two handed stuff with high dexterity or intelligence, to off set his lack of plate, give him the heavy damage daily which does 3[W] and make him wield a greatsword or a katana/bastard sword depending on your tastes :p maybe multiclass a close burst power to represent a kinda ground slash thing
 

Rechan

Adventurer
Warlord. Go Inspirational. This way, you're not necessarily puttin' the hurt on the dude, but you look awesome when you do it.
 

Talislan

First Post
Isn't there a Paragon path called Kensei for the fighter? I'm sure I saw that in another thread somewhere. Thought that would be the way for the Cloud-esque western 'Samurai' detective?
 

Xefas

First Post
Well, Cloud could cast a lot of magic. Actually, he could cast *all* the magic available to PCs.

How about a Wizard with the Weapon Proficiency feat for Greatsword? His high Intelligence will give him a decent AC bonus in no armor (the wizard's armor of choice).

Then, you can mimic just how FF7 played: muscley guys with giant swords who sit in the back and spam their Bahamut Zero materia until everything dies.

Don't forget to reflavor the 1st level Scorching Burst power appropriately.
 

Nifft

Penguin Herder
Paladin may be interesting. It's got enough Cha vs. AC attacks that you could ignore Strength entirely. Sure, you'll miss out on high-level weapon feats, but that might be worth it.

I'm going to say Eladrin Fighter, though. Simple, and the Longsword feat will make you very happy.

Eladrin Fighter
Str: 16
Con: 14
Dex: 16 (14 +2)
Int: 10 (8 +2)
Wis: 12
Cha: 10

Racial: +2 Arcana, History; +1 Will, +5 on saves vs. Charm effects; Trance; +1 skill (any)

Fey Step
Encounter • Teleportation
Move • Personal
Effect: teleport up to 5 squares.

Fighter
HP: 29
Bloodied: 14
Healing Surge: 7
Surges/day: 11

At-Wills: Sure Strike, Cleave
Encounter: Passing Attack
Daily: Brute Strike

Skills: Athletics, Endurance, Heal, Perception (racial bonus)
Feat: Eladrin Soldier (+2 to damage with your Longsword)


* Level 2
Utility: Boundless Endurance
Feat: Warrior of the Wild (Hunter's Quarry 1/encounter, training in Stealth)

* Level 3
Encounter: Sweeping Blow

* Level 4
+1 Str, +1 Dex
Feat: Quick Draw

* Level 5
Daily: Rain of Steel

* Level 6
Utility: Unbreakable
Feat: Weapon Focus (longsword)


... is that enough levels?

Cheers, -- N
 



Nifft

Penguin Herder
Lord Tirian said:
How do you offset the lack of armour? How do you make him the trenchcoat guy?
High Dexterity + Hide Armor (in the shape of a trenchcoat)? That's 16 at 1st level, which isn't terrible. Or does "trench coat" mean "cloth armor only"?

Cheers, -- N
 

hong

WotC's bitch
I would operationalise trenchcoat to be anything from the lightest armour category. In 3E, that generally means chain shirt or mithral breastplate.

Hide seems kinda unstylish, but maybe that's just 3E prejudice talking.

Wouldn't high Dex for a fighter be suboptimal due to spending points in a non-essential stat?
 

Nifft

Penguin Herder
hong said:
I would operationalise trenchcoat to be anything from the lightest armour category. In 3E, that generally means chain shirt or mithral breastplate.

Hide seems kinda unstylish, but maybe that's just 3E prejudice talking.
Hide armor is "light", just like leather. It's only one point better than leather, but it does impose an armor check penalty. (Leather is fine too.) However, there's a Paragon feat which gives you a +1 bonus when wearing hide, so that's a point in its favor. Literally.

Wouldn't high Dex for a fighter be suboptimal due to spending points in a non-essential stat?[/QUOTE] Not when there are Heavy Blade-oriented Paragon feats which require Str 15 and Dex 15 or 17, and the Epic feat you most want requires Str 21, Dex 17.

There's also this:
PHB said:
Weapon: If you’re wielding a heavy blade or a light blade, you gain a bonus to the damage roll equal to your Dexterity modifier.
... but you'll have to wait until 13th level to get it, and the rest of its benefits.

Cheers, -- N
 


The_Fan

First Post
Rapier rogue.

Rapiers do the same damage as a longsword now, but count as light blades, so they work with rogue exploits and sneak attack. Flavor your sword to look more like a katana. Make the trenchcoat out of leather. You'll find it works very well for the sort of lightly armored melee monster you want.
 

Kid Charlemagne

I am the Very Model of a Modern Moderator
In 4E, the trenchcoat can be cloth armor - no armor bonus on its own, but it can be enchanted. That's probably how I'd go.
 

Ruined

Explorer
Cloud? Bah, you're all missing the point. He wants a sword and trenchcoat. I'm thinking level 24 Fighter / Kensei / Eternal Seeker.

 

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