Buying permanent modifers from you DM ?

Hrrmmm so tricky at best

I guess a watered down version of Vow of Poverty might be the way to go.

basically just lay out all the bonuses you want at lv 20 , using VOP as a guide, then spread them over 20 levels and then sit down with your DM.

1) Work out of the average wealth you'll have at each level how much you must sacrifice through RP (give away, destroyed as part of a ritual at levelup, etc)

2) Charcter cannot use any items that directly stack or stack parallel stats e.g. if you take +2STR then you cant then get any benefit from any wearable item that increases any other stat should you come across one. similar any AC bonus enchament, natural or otherwise you then cannot use any item which magically improves you AC etc

3) Charcter is still able to use magic items which are not related to his "bought" increases e.g. a bag of holding or a +1 sword (unless he's got an extra bonus to his BAB)

P.S keep in mind that as long as there is a cost then the charcter wont have enough money left over to min/max his equipment.

although I agree PrC's are a viable option they kill any chance of just playing a straight class which limits you to classes which are not heavy level depndents like spell casting classes. becuase then you need to find a PrC that stacks AND give the bonsues you want, which is close to impossible.
 

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Phasics said:
Say I want a +1 to my natural armour permently, how much would that be worth in gold ? or a +2 to my strength permently.
The former is an Epic feat, the latter either a +2 Inherent Bonus (2 Wishes, 10,000 XP) or two Epic feats.
 

Phasics said:
Heh no I'm not looking to powergame the money you'd spend on these enhancments would then not be there for buying said ring of protection.

At this point I'll mention Vow of Poverty which basically trades gold for permanent increases but there's alot of RP baggage and the bonuses are fixed, I'm looking for a bit more tailoring variety.

Just because you say it, doesn't necessarily make it so.
 

Phasics said:
Now what I'm after is being able to purchase permanent increases for my charcter either with gold or XP or a combination of both.
Already in the rules. :D You see it all the time.

It's called leveling up. And every four levels you get a free +1 to a stat of your choice. Pretty sweet, eh?
 

FWIW:

Permanent bonuses (typed, of course) work fine in 3.5e D&D, at least in my game. And they really clean up this bizarre item-dependent-ness that 3.xe has.

If *everyone* has access to such things, there's really no reason to charge more than the normal "slot-less" magic item cost (x2). YMMV.
 

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