Calling all Loremasters

[Maitre Du Donjon]

Hello all,

I will probably be building a wizard in order to take the Loremaster PrC, and I was looking for info on how to prepare my wizard best, regarding his future career.

Any info, suggestions, stories are welcome, regarding the necessary feats i have to take in order to qualify (3 meta/IC feats + Skill Focus (Knowledge). I'm not necessarily looking for maximum damage output. I will be playing him as somewhat of a curious sage, bordering on know-it-all. The rest of the party consists in a half orc barbarian, a half-orc cleric and a human paladin.

For now, i was thinking building up a human Diviner (specialist wizard), barring the school of Necromancy (doesn't want anything to do with undead, thinks its unnatural). I'll be starting at about level 4 or 5...

Thanks in advance for your participation.

Maitre D

 

[Pax]

Hehehe, that's funny. The Loremaster I played, was a Necromancer (barred school Illusion). No better source for information about the past, than to talk to the long-dead sots who were THERE, eh?

Well, for a Diviner, I suppose Extend Spell could be useful. Maybe.

As for the rest ... it heavily depends on your expected spell selection. For some, Split Ray, W. Focus (Ray), and Spell Specialisation (Ray) are excellent choices. For others, they're a waste.

If you plan on having a lot f elemental-damage spells, some Energy Substitutions can be useful.

Subdual Substitution can be useful, too -- especially i you picture your character as a largely nonviolent scholar.

Twin Spell can actually work well on some divinations ... the ones that give saves, for example (a good example would be know protections from MoF).

 

[Bill Muench]

The positively, absolutely best feat for a Loremaster is Jack of All Trades from Song and Silence. Why? Because it lets you use any Knowledge skill untrained. No more of that "I've put 1 rank in every Knowledge skill I can think of" stuff.

(this is of course assuming that your DM gives different information to Knowledge skill checks than he would for Lore checks)

Another good feat is Obscure Lore, although it technically only works for Bardic Lore. However, any DM that wouldn't allow it to work for Loremasters would have to be extremely picky.

 

[Storm Raven]

Any info, suggestions, stories are welcome, regarding the necessary feats i have to take in order to qualify (3 meta/IC feats + Skill Focus (Knowledge). I'm not necessarily looking for maximum damage output. I will be playing him as somewhat of a curious sage, bordering on know-it-all. The rest of the party consists in a half orc barbarian, a half-orc cleric and a human paladin.

For now, i was thinking building up a human Diviner (specialist wizard), barring the school of Necromancy (doesn't want anything to do with undead, thinks its unnatural). I'll be starting at about level 4 or 5...

You start with one item creation feat already: all wizards have Scribe Scroll. So you are already a third of the way along that requirement. I'd suggest Craft Wondrous Item for one of your other three prerequisite Item Creation of Metamagic feats. Wondrous Items are a wizard's bread and butter: Headbands of Intellect, Bracers of Armor, Cloaks of Resistance, Boccob's Blessed Book and so on, not to mention the various scrying items you can make (many of these are pricey though).

For your other feat I'd probably go with Craft Wand, you can never have too many of these for utility purposes. Otherwise I'd go for a mid rage metamagic feat that you could get some long term use out of like Maximize or Empower spell.

 

[Maitre Du Donjon]

Thanks for your replies, they will be considered seriously.

Maitre D

 

[Voadam]

My lore master has found the extend spell then persistent spell chain quite useful although persistent does not really come into play until 9th level caster level.

Persistent detect secret doors has been great in a non-elf party when dungeon delving or fortress exploring.

Harper mage prc is great for leading into loremaster and then archmage, although it requires the educated and alertness feats. It provides both a skill focus spellcraft for archmage and skill focus knowledge and the metamagic eschew materials for loremaster prereqs.

 

[Andion Isurand]

the Education feat is no longer required for the harper mage PrC, due to the errata

but now you need at least 5 total ranks in Knowledge (local)
I assume you dont need 5 ranks in just one local area though

 

[Voadam]

the Education feat is no longer required for the harper mage PrC, due to the errata

but now you need at least 5 total ranks in Knowledge (local)
I assume you dont need 5 ranks in just one local area though

Where is the errata?

 

[Andion Isurand]

Magic of Faerûn errata:

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=dnd/er/er20020303a