Calm Emotions?


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Caliban: In what way are you the "bigger man", when you proceed to do exactly what you are falsely accusing me of this very post?

If you had not ignored the next statement in my post, you would have read the part wherein I agreed that ...
Roland: If, by not responding to your curious escape clause, I insinuated that in fact it was not read, that is incorrect.

Admitting you made a mistake, or even that your words could have been taken in an ill-advised manner, would make you a
"Bigger man".

Roland

P.S.: Read back through, I believe you'll find the personal assault comes from your angle my friend, and that I was polite until stepped on. If you continue to debate the matter, I shall regard
you as in the deepest fit of self deception, and appropriately ignore your response, as I expect you shall do to this one.. (at least if you have any desire to salvage some respect on the issue). Last word - Touche'. I dont agree with you. But I'm done
arguing about it.
 

You have a very funny idea about what constitutes "respect" if you think that you have caused me to lose any in this thread. :)

Making false statements and then attributing them to me, that does cause a significant loss of respect. Please avoid it in the future.

Also, how can you say that I ignored a part of your post, when I quoted it and responded to it specifically? It's statements like that, that lead me to believe you aren't actually reading my posts before responding to them.

Although it appears that I may have misunderstood what you meant by your statement, based on your last post. Given the rather tortured grammer your statement contained, I hope I can be forgiven that bit of misunderstanding.

Your new, so I'll forgive you for putting your foot in it.
 
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You know, calm emotions will be a real bad idea when facing spiders. Vermin is immune to mind affecting spells and spiders are vermin :p

Anyway, 3rd level clerics and wizards for that matter are relatively common in a standard campaign world. I would think that anybody training soldiers and guardians would have the brains to ask a cleric or wizard to give some basic anti-spell training as well. I certainly know that my players who like to use the spell give some extensive instructions to the people with whoem they are working on how to deal with the spell. Of course, you should take this kind of training into account from the start* and spellcasters should be able to abuse it. Spells that look like the low level variant but in reality are of a higher level variant that cannot be as easily disrupted, would result in opponents trying to "slap" their friends.

* Just as in mine campaign it is reasonably normal to make extensive use of dogs -who are trained to face invisible opponents when they have been taught the guard trick- and strands in important openings that move and make a sound when people walk through it.
 

Let's say you use Calm Emotions on a raging barbarian and his rage is supressed (like it says in the spell description). You concentrate for enough rounds so the barbarian's rage ends. Then you drop your concentration, and the spell is over. Combat resumes.

a) the barbarian cannot fly into another rage because he can only do it once per encounter.

b) same encounter, so the barbarian is fatigued after having raged, even though his emotions were calmed.

These are accurate?
 

Felix said:
Let's say you use Calm Emotions on a raging barbarian and his rage is supressed (like it says in the spell description). You concentrate for enough rounds so the barbarian's rage ends. Then you drop your concentration, and the spell is over. Combat resumes.

a) the barbarian cannot fly into another rage because he can only do it once per encounter.

b) same encounter, so the barbarian is fatigued after having raged, even though his emotions were calmed.

These are accurate?

My understanding is that you don't even have to concentrate. The spell instantly ends his rage, and he is fatigued.

I don't have my books with me though, so I could be off.
 

"Indifference" is also good for dealign with barbarians and the like. 8) They just can't bring themselves to CARE enough, to enter a rage.
 

In THIS cornah! *looks down to read card.. squints* "RolandOfGilead"!! Posts? Fifty?? Er.. yeah- Fifty! Lotta lip and a bad attitude!

In THIS cornah! *shouts out over the roar of the crowd* CALIBAN!!! Just under two THOUSAND (that's right, thousand) posts! You may remember him from such threads as "Caliban help!" or "Caliban where are you?" Second only to the SRD and well above the WotC CS dept in reliability and reigning chamPEEN!

But seriously folks.

Caliban and Madfox both make some very good points about the precautions muggles must learn to take in a world like D&D. Bead curtains, muddy floors, dogs... And learning that often if your buddy is slackjawed, giving him a poke will snap him right out of it.

It is these sorts of reactions that give a magic world versimilitude and make it seem like more than just this world's past but with magic.
 

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