Can a Phantom Steed run?

[Stalker0]

Phantom Steed is giving a speed, but it doesn't say whether it can or can not run. What do you all think?

 

[Moon-Lancer]

it can as long as it doesn't say it cant.

 

[RigaMortus2]

it can as long as it doesn't say it cant.

Does this mean it can fly and burrow too?

 

[Patlin]

Does this mean it can fly and burrow too?

Burrow, no. Fly at the right caster level though...

I don't see any reason why a phantom steed couldn't take the run action. That does sound like the kind of thing that ought to be explicitly excluded, if it's to be disallowed.

 

[Sound of Azure]

Does this mean it can fly and burrow too?

No. Those are specific movement modes, and would be given if the steed had them. Land speed is assumed to allow running unless stated otherwise. Other movement rates mention whether they allow the run action or not.

 

[RigaMortus2]

No. Those are specific movement modes, and would be given if the steed had them. Land speed is assumed to allow running unless stated otherwise. Other movement rates mention whether they allow the run action or not.

What about the Fly spell? Can you Run while under the effects of the Fly spell? Essentially, can you "Run Fly"?

Would it matter if it wasn't the fly spell, but an (Su) or (Ex) ability that gave you flying? Would it matter if it was wings that gave you flying?

 

[Sound of Azure]

What about the Fly spell? Can you Run while under the effects of the Fly spell? Essentially, can you "Run Fly"?

Would it matter if it wasn't the fly spell, but an (Su) or (Ex) ability that gave you flying? Would it matter if it was wings that gave you flying?

Yes, you can "Run Fly", because the spell gives you a Fly speed. A Fly speed allows you to take the run action when flying, as long as you fly in a straight line. It also allows a dive attack.

It doesn't matter what gives you the fly speed, just that it is a fly speed. Maneuvrability would have a bearing on how clumsy a flyer you are, and exactlyy how well you can change direction, but no effect on running (since it must be in a straight line).

Swimming also allows the run action (with the same straight line limitation), but climbing and burrowing do not. Climbing allows accelerated climbing (and a charge), but burrowing allows neither.

 

[shilsen]

What about the Fly spell? Can you Run while under the effects of the Fly spell? Essentially, can you "Run Fly"?

Since the spell actually says that you "can charge but not run," the answer is obviously "np."

Would it matter if it wasn't the fly spell, but an (Su) or (Ex) ability that gave you flying? Would it matter if it was wings that gave you flying?

Yes, it would matter, since then you could run, unless the ability specifically forbade it. Creatures with a fly movement rate can use the run action with it. See the MM glossary.

 

[shilsen]

Yes, you can "Run Fly", because the spell gives you a Fly speed. A Fly speed allows you to take the run action when flying, as long as you fly in a straight line. It also allows a dive attack.

True, but the spell description explicitly forbids running.

It doesn't matter what gives you the fly speed, just that it is a fly speed.

It does matter, since some of the methods, such as the Fly and Overland Flight spells, forbid running.

 

[Sound of Azure]

Since the spell actually says that you "can charge but not run," the answer is obviously "np."

Oops. Didn't look at the fly spell, just at the fly speed description.

EDIT:

It does matter, since some of the methods, such as the Fly and Overland Flight spells, forbid running.

Yes. Both spells call for a specific exception to the general rule allowing the run action when flying.