Can A Readied Action work with Haste?

[Valicor]

I was wondering if a character can ready and action as is full round. and then take his hasted partial action while maintaining his readied action.

Example Standard Action (PC readies an action to Kneel if an arrow is fired at him) granting partial cover. Now he has spent his main action and has a haste action. If he atatck in his haste action, will he still be able to duck, when fired at?


I am guessing that this does work.
Thank you for any assistance you can provide.

 

[hong]

I say no. He would have to take his extra partial action before the regular part of his round, or forfeit it.

 

[Valicor]

I say no. He would have to take his extra partial action before the regular part of his round, or forfeit it.

But doesn't the haste action come at the end of a round? Seems like that would make a haste action usless if you readied an action. I interpreted haste as you are moving so fast, you can react to siuations almsot while performing other activities.

My interpretation slightly off?

 

[mikebr99]

You can use your extra partial action from haste at the beginning or the end of the round... your choice.

 

[hong]

"On his turn, the subject may take an extra partial action, either before or after his regular action." -- PHB p.212

 

[Valicor]

Missed that part, thank you

 

[Grazzt]

I was wondering if a character can ready and action as is full round. and then take his hasted partial action while maintaining his readied action.

Example Standard Action (PC readies an action to Kneel if an arrow is fired at him) granting partial cover. Now he has spent his main action and has a haste action. If he atatck in his haste action, will he still be able to duck, when fired at?

Well- you can still move when you ready an action (page 134 in the PHB) so I don't see why you couldn't use a haste action.

The spell grants you an extra partial action either before or after your regular action (page 212, PHB).

EDIT: Well damn- hong beat me to it.

 

[Sigma]

I don't see why you'd necessarily have your first action be your held action. Seems like a better idea to use your first action (either from haste, or your regular action) to attack, and then hold the second part for something. Holding the first action then using the second doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

We do this all the time in our high level campaign. Smack the enemy spellcaster with the first action, then hold a counterspell *cough* empowered flamestrike *cough* with the partial from haste.

Hmmm...hey, here's one. What if you used your regular action to make a full attack, and then your partial from haste to hold an action. Before your held action goes off, you get hit with dispel magic (or slow) and the haste gets stripped. Would you lose the held action?

 

[mikebr99]

Hmmm...hey, here's one. What if you used your regular action to make a full attack, and then your partial from haste to hold an action. Before your held action goes off, you get hit with dispel magic (or slow) and the haste gets stripped. Would you lose the held action?

I think so... it is an extra action that shouldn't be there normally... if it gets dispelled, it should disappear. Though the casting of dispel probably provokes the readied action... AND an AoO!!

 

[KarinsDad]

Hmmm...hey, here's one. What if you used your regular action to make a full attack, and then your partial from haste to hold an action. Before your held action goes off, you get hit with dispel magic (or slow) and the haste gets stripped. Would you lose the held action?

No.

You've already done the partial action.

You held a readied action with it.

Regardless of whether you use that readied action or not, your partial action has already been done.

Yes, I know in "real world logic", this does not make as much sense. Either you do an action, or you do not.

But, in game mechanics, it does make sense. Performing a readied action means that you've taken your action, it just has not resolved yet.


In any case, getting back to the original question, you cannot do something else while holding a readied action. Hence, you either do an action and then hold a readied action, or you just hold a readied action. You cannot hold a readied action and then do a different action within it (you are still doing the held action, so you cannot do something else without aborting it).