Can a Wish overcome natural immunities?

[Theory of Games]

TWENTY YEARS OLD?

 

[Deset Gled]

Another 20 year old thread worth updating. I might let a player get away with it. If the player says that he wants his charm spells to work on any creature with more than animal intelligence. The problem might be with the next wish trying to push things and saying that you want your fire spells to be able to damage every creature or always deal max damage. It seems like a line someplace.

It's very much worth noting that the OP said (twenty years ago) "on a lich", not "on all liches".

I think a limited use casting is highly reasonable. A permanent upgrade is not. For both 3.x and 5e.

 

[dave2008]

oops - just noticed this a serious necro. never mind

 

[Maxperson]

Some creatures have various immunities that are inherent to their nature. For example, mind-affecting spells simply can't affect an undead creature. My question here is if a wish spell could overcome that. If I wanted to use a charm monster effect on a lich, would a wish spell be powerful enough to have that happen (e.g. could I have a wish emulate a charm monster with the proviso that it'd work on an undead creature)?

It's up to the DM. This would fall outside the standard usage for wishes, so it's a DM call. For myself, it would depend on what you are targeting. If it was your run of the mill undead(Vampire, Lich, etc.), I'd say yes. If it was something godlike in power, such as an archdevil, demon lord, etc., then I would not allow it to work.

 

[Maxperson]

TWENTY YEARS OLD?

Because it's time to get the thread out of the house. 20 year old slacker!

 

[AnotherGuy]

TWENTY YEARS OLD?

Archmage @Alzrius, had his Unseen Servant create an Enworld account and necro this thread just so he could update us on the Wish spell. The man, the myth, the Methuselah!