LordEntrails
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Why? Of course it would still be limited to illusions and enchantments.meaning the requirement for illusions or enchantments would not apply either.
Why? Of course it would still be limited to illusions and enchantments.meaning the requirement for illusions or enchantments would not apply either.
I would assume that if they can't swap their cantrips out via the specific allowance for non enchantment/illusion spells, then they can't get hold of Green Flame Blade, or Booming Blade.Is it really that big of a deal to swap a cantrip for a 3rd level spell known or whatever?
No I honestly did not think about that. I am trying to replace a cantrip with another cantrip. For example I have booming blade, light and mage hand at 3rd level and when I level up to 4th level I trade light for chill touch. If I did this I could not replace another leveled spell, so I could not for example replace sleep with Tashas laughter at the same time.I believe ECMO is trying to replace a cantrip (which is technically “a wizard spell [they] know”) with another wizard spell that is not a cantrip when they gain a level in the class.
Because the cantrip I got at 3rd level is not an illusion or enchantment.Why? Of course it would still be limited to illusions and enchantments.
Oh! Yeah, I don’t think the RAW technically allows it, but I definitely would.No I honestly did not think about that. I am trying to replace a cantrip with another cantrip. For example I have booming blade, light and mage hand at 3rd level and when I level up to 4th level I trade light for chill touch. If I did this I could not replace another leveled spell, so I could not for example replace sleep with Tashas laughter at the same time.
An arcane trickster’s cantrip options don’t have any such limitation to begin with.Why? Of course it would still be limited to illusions and enchantments.
Why wouldn't they be able to get those two cantrips? They can select any from the wizard list when they begin the subclass.I would assume that if they can't swap their cantrips out via the specific allowance for non enchantment/illusion spells, then they can't get hold of Green Flame Blade, or Booming Blade.
Which does matter as Green Flame Blade is a good reliable damage boost after level 6.
Yes, I think the omission of EK and AT from the list of classes who can swap cantrips was an oversight, not intention. I would allow swapping a cantrip for a different cantrip.Given that (as of Tasha's, at least as an "optional" rule) bards, clerics, druids, sorcerers, and warlocks can swap a cantrip at every level they get an ASI, wizards (as of 3rd level) can swap a cantrip every long rest, and paladins with Blessed Warrior and rangers with Druidic Warrior can swap a cantrip every level . . .
I think the fair rulings would be that you can use the Eldritch Knight/Arcane Trickster at-level-change spell swap to swap a cantrip for another cantrip, or you can swap a cantrip at every ASI without using the spell swap, or both.
This is really what I wanted to figure out how to do for ATs.Given that (as of Tasha's, at least as an "optional" rule) bards, clerics, druids, sorcerers, and warlocks can swap a cantrip at every level they get an ASI, wizards (as of 3rd level) can swap a cantrip every long rest, and paladins with Blessed Warrior and rangers with Druidic Warrior can swap a cantrip every level . . .