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Can anyone remember a game where elves are a class and a race?


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Whizbang Dustyboots

Gnometown Hero
The 3E Unearthed Arcana had a three level racial "paragon" class for the most obvious player character races, yes.

But it was BD&D that really ran with the idea.
 


Jhaelen

First Post
The first edition of 'Das Schwarze Auge' (The Dark Eye) also made no distinction between class and race, you could be an Adventurer, a Warrior, an Elf, or a Dwarf.
Since then the game's come a long way: Now you have a race, a class, a culture and plenty of ways to customize your background, skills and abilities.
 


trancejeremy

Adventurer
Basic (and Expert/Companion/Master/Immortal) D&D did it, and so various retro-clones based on it also do - Labyrinth Lord and Lamentations of the Flame Princess. And then some like Adventurer Conqueror King have racial classes, not just Elf, but Elven Nightblade and Elven Spellsword (which is actually sort of what Basic D&D did in later books, you had racial classes of the core classes, like Elf Warrior)

Basic Fantasy Role-Playing (not D&D) actually doesn't, it does race and class like OD&D
 


Whizbang Dustyboots

Gnometown Hero
Basic (and Expert/Companion/Master/Immortal) D&D did it, and so various retro-clones based on it also do - Labyrinth Lord and Lamentations of the Flame Princess. And then some like Adventurer Conqueror King have racial classes, not just Elf, but Elven Nightblade and Elven Spellsword (which is actually sort of what Basic D&D did in later books, you had racial classes of the core classes, like Elf Warrior)

Basic Fantasy Role-Playing (not D&D) actually doesn't, it does race and class like OD&D
Thanks. I couldn't find a page which broke out which OSR games did and didn't do it. (In fact, at least one good OSR explainer page seems to have vanished recently.)
 

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